Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno
Date	2017-06-07 14:03 +1000
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Wednesday, 7 Jun 2017 6:12 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:epn05mFe6ibU2@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 11:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>> news:epmdi2FadjaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 5:00 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:epl5j5F1drgU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 Jun 2017 11:08 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2017 10:34 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Xeno.. can you please advise if it's ok for me to use the 
>>>>>>>>> myrepublic
>>>>>>>>> modem? my concern is that it will 'talk' to MR, and register a
>>>>>>>>> connection, and I'll be charged. Rob says just to put in my TPG 
>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>> and username, and I can use this modem with my TPG account, and 
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>> no prob, I can do that without connecting to the net, but the MR 
>>>>>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>> <https://mrau-web-02.s3.amazonaws.com/au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Wi-Fi-Hub-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf>
>>>>>>>>> step 4, says the modem will setup automatically, once I'm online, 
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> would that mean it will register me as a customer of MR?. TIA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what about the belong one? I don't have an account with them
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's give you a hint felix. I had an Optus modem running my 
>>>>>>>> Internode connection for a while until I put in my Cisco gear. I 
>>>>>>>> then reconfigured it to run on our Exetel network at work when our 
>>>>>>>> shitty Netcomm failed. I have never been charged by Optus...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but did you have an Optus account? I have an MR account
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fact is felix that who you are connected to is designated by 
>>>>>>>> carrier codes assigned to your connection by the NBN and those 
>>>>>>>> codes give the ip range information to the modem and in the case of 
>>>>>>>> your MR modem when you are connected to their NBN service the modem 
>>>>>>>> is auto configured. If you manually configure it to use TPG it 
>>>>>>>> cannot connect to MR...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> however, I've just discovered that I need to be connected to the 
>>>>>>> internet to access the modem configuration page, as I've just been 
>>>>>>> experimenting with the Belong modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you don’t with the MR modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my concern is, and you'll pardon my ignorance in these matters (I 
>>>>>>> hope), that once the modem connects to the internet it will 'seek 
>>>>>>> out' it's host MR and identify with my account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FTTP doesn’t work like that. What RSP it talks to is determined by
>>>>>> which port on the NBN NTU you plug it into. If you plug it into
>>>>>> the one you are currently using, it will use the same RSP you are
>>>>>> using now. The RSP is fixed to a particular port on the NBN NTU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have that issue with Belong as I don't have an account with 
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telstra uses the same principal with their modems for NBN 
>>>>>>>> connections (it's done by mac addressing) and autoconfigure their 
>>>>>>>> modems with your details. Works well until they get their wires 
>>>>>>>> crossed... You can if you are a masochist setup a Telstra modem to 
>>>>>>>> work with your connection as well. The Belong modem (being part of 
>>>>>>>> Telstra) uses the same mac addressing principle. As long as you 
>>>>>>>> configure it to use TPG you will not have any issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume that 'configuring the modem' means copying the settings 
>>>>>>> from the TPG modem config page to the MR modem config page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In saying that though if you have your home phone configured via 
>>>>>>>> voip through your current modem you may have some issues as some 
>>>>>>>> companies modems have the phone carrier hard coded into the modem 
>>>>>>>> and it cannot be changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the home phone number was provided by TPG, and I believe that with 
>>>>>>> the NBN home phones are now voip phones,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so that could be an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> so i access the MR modem config page without internet connection, and 
>>>>> then change only the username and password.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and that alone ensures that it can use the MR service.
>>>
>>> you mean can't?
>>
>> Yeah, I really should proof read, can't be bothered tho.
>>
>>>>> then do I connect to the NBN box TPG port,
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> or the other port?
>>>>
>>>> No, that’s the one that the MR service is on.
>>
>>> ok, I have put in the username and password, and connected via the NBN 
>>> TPG port, but I can't access the internet. it would seem to me that I 
>>> need to change other settings on the modem.
>>
>> Yep, likely. You need PPoE etc.
>>
>>> eg. NTP servers, ???
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>>>> (the wifi speed was down to 1.1 mbps last night
>>>>
>>>> That wouldn’t be due to the Netcomm router,
>>>> it will deliver something like 25 mbps fine. It
>>>> just can't get within a bulls roar of the 100
>>>> mbps that your FTTP can provide if you are
>>>> paying for a 100/40 service with TPG.
>>>>
>>>>> so I really need to do something,
>>>>
>>>> That is likely local wifi interference.
>>>>
>>>> You may be able to fix that by using a different
>>>> channel or using the 5GHz band if the TV can
>>>> do that. The MR router can, the Netcomm can't.
>>>>
>>>>> although my PC connection is via ethernet)
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but your problem is with your TV.
>>>
>>> yes. I can connect via LAN but then I have the problem that the tv keeps 
>>> connecting and disconnecting, making the LAN connection virtually 
>>> unusable
>>
>> Be interesting to see what happens with the MR router.
>
> you have said previously that the problem is due to the way that TPG does 
> things, and that MR does it differently,

I said nothing of the sort with the problem you are seeing.

> so I'm counting on the MR modem being much better,

It is for most of us, but not for everyone.

> and eliminating the problem,

Remains to be seen where the problem is. If the problem is
the TV, it may not make any difference at all. I suggested you
TRY the MR modem given that its available to be tried and it
is known to perform MUCH better than the Netcomm WITH
WIFI and you said that one of the problems was with wifi.

> so I can use the LAN connection and get constant speed.

I never said anything about the MR modem doing LAN better.

> btw.. the distance of the tv from the modem is a good 30 metres. that 
> would not be something causing an issue would it?

Nar, that’s fine with a decent CAT5 or CAT5 cable and from
memory you did say that you had tried a different one.

If you havent, worth trying a different one or the MR modem
and use wifi. BUT you appear to have severe wifi congestion
given that the Netcomm cant even deliver a decent speed
on wifi and you have never said if the TV can do 5GHz wifi.

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