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Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno

From felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno
Date 2017-06-07 12:09 +1000
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On Wednesday, 7 Jun 2017 9:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:epot55Fs6itU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On Wednesday, 7 Jun 2017 6:11 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>>> news:epnnmvFji6oU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 4:24 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 11:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:epmdi2FadjaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 5:00 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:epl5j5F1drgU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 Jun 2017 11:08 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2017 10:34 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno.. can you please advise if it's ok for me to use the 
>>>>>>>>>>> myrepublic
>>>>>>>>>>> modem? my concern is that it will 'talk' to MR, and register a
>>>>>>>>>>> connection, and I'll be charged. Rob says just to put in my 
>>>>>>>>>>> TPG password
>>>>>>>>>>> and username, and I can use this modem with my TPG account, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and that's
>>>>>>>>>>> no prob, I can do that without connecting to the net, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> the MR setup
>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mrau-web-02.s3.amazonaws.com/au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Wi-Fi-Hub-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf> 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> step 4, says the modem will setup automatically, once I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> online, so
>>>>>>>>>>> would that mean it will register me as a customer of MR?. TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what about the belong one? I don't have an account with them
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's give you a hint felix. I had an Optus modem running my 
>>>>>>>>>> Internode connection for a while until I put in my Cisco 
>>>>>>>>>> gear. I then reconfigured it to run on our Exetel network at 
>>>>>>>>>> work when our shitty Netcomm failed. I have never been 
>>>>>>>>>> charged by Optus...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but did you have an Optus account? I have an MR account
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fact is felix that who you are connected to is designated 
>>>>>>>>>> by carrier codes assigned to your connection by the NBN and 
>>>>>>>>>> those codes give the ip range information to the modem and in 
>>>>>>>>>> the case of your MR modem when you are connected to their NBN 
>>>>>>>>>> service the modem is auto configured. If you manually 
>>>>>>>>>> configure it to use TPG it cannot connect to MR...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> however, I've just discovered that I need to be connected to 
>>>>>>>>> the internet to access the modem configuration page, as I've 
>>>>>>>>> just been experimenting with the Belong modem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No you don’t with the MR modem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> my concern is, and you'll pardon my ignorance in these matters 
>>>>>>>>> (I hope), that once the modem connects to the internet it will 
>>>>>>>>> 'seek out' it's host MR and identify with my account.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FTTP doesn’t work like that. What RSP it talks to is determined by
>>>>>>>> which port on the NBN NTU you plug it into. If you plug it into
>>>>>>>> the one you are currently using, it will use the same RSP you are
>>>>>>>> using now. The RSP is fixed to a particular port on the NBN NTU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't have that issue with Belong as I don't have an account 
>>>>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Telstra uses the same principal with their modems for NBN 
>>>>>>>>>> connections (it's done by mac addressing) and autoconfigure 
>>>>>>>>>> their modems with your details. Works well until they get 
>>>>>>>>>> their wires crossed... You can if you are a masochist setup a 
>>>>>>>>>> Telstra modem to work with your connection as well. The 
>>>>>>>>>> Belong modem (being part of Telstra) uses the same mac 
>>>>>>>>>> addressing principle. As long as you configure it to use TPG 
>>>>>>>>>> you will not have any issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I assume that 'configuring the modem' means copying the 
>>>>>>>>> settings from the TPG modem config page to the MR modem config 
>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In saying that though if you have your home phone configured 
>>>>>>>>>> via voip through your current modem you may have some issues 
>>>>>>>>>> as some companies modems have the phone carrier hard coded 
>>>>>>>>>> into the modem and it cannot be changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the home phone number was provided by TPG, and I believe that 
>>>>>>>>> with the NBN home phones are now voip phones,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so that could be an issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so i access the MR modem config page without internet 
>>>>>>> connection, and then change only the username and password.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, and that alone ensures that it can use the MR service.
>>>>>
>>>>> you mean can't?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then do I connect to the NBN box TPG port,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or the other port?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, that’s the one that the MR service is on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, I have put in the username and password, and connected via the 
>>>>> NBN TPG port, but I can't access the internet. it would seem to me 
>>>>> that I need to change other settings on the modem. eg. NTP 
>>>>> servers, ???
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (the wifi speed was down to 1.1 mbps last night
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That wouldn’t be due to the Netcomm router,
>>>>>> it will deliver something like 25 mbps fine. It
>>>>>> just can't get within a bulls roar of the 100
>>>>>> mbps that your FTTP can provide if you are
>>>>>> paying for a 100/40 service with TPG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so I really need to do something,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is likely local wifi interference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may be able to fix that by using a different
>>>>>> channel or using the 5GHz band if the TV can
>>>>>> do that. The MR router can, the Netcomm can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> although my PC connection is via ethernet)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but your problem is with your TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> yes. I can connect via LAN but then I have the problem that the tv 
>>>>> keeps connecting and disconnecting, making the LAN connection 
>>>>> virtually unusable
>>>
>>>> I decided to connect to myrepublic as this is proving too complicated.
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>> I was able to log into my myaccount page and it shows the status of 
>>>> my order as 'pending installation'. over two months and still waiting.
>>>
>>> Its likely just waiting for you to plug the MR router into the
>>> port on the NBN NTU that MR has provided a service on to
>>> indicate that the installation is complete and start billing you.
>>
>> however, I have heard nothing from them since the initial 'welcome' 
>> email. they have not told me to plug in the modem, or where to plug 
>> it into, or anything at all for that matter, despite the fact they 
>> said in that email that I would be informed by texts and emails 
>> regarding the progress of my connection. and I've never received any 
>> email giving me a password to log into my account. I've just been 
>> left in limbo since day one
>
> If you didn’t expect any glitches at all with an operation
> that had only been going for a couple of months before
> you signed up

I don't see how that's relevant as they have been operating OS for much 
longer, and would have their systems in operation already

> and arent actually capable of telling them
> that you havent  heard from them apart from the initial email...

I have. they never got back to me

>
>>>> these ppl are a joke!
>
>>> No joke there, its done the way it should be.
>
>> well it's not the way TPG do it!
>
> Yeah, they have fuckwit incompetents in
> a call center in India instead.

Philippines actually

> And supply
> steaming turds of modems that can't even
> deliver anything even remotely like the
> 100/40 service you are paying for over wifi.
>
>> they do it much better with texts, emails, and instructions at every 
>> step of the way.
>
> Hardly surprising given that they have been
> doing it for more than a decade now.


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