Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno
Date	2017-06-08 10:49 +1000
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Wednesday, 7 Jun 2017 2:44 PM, FMurtz wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:epotk3Fs9gaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Wednesday, 7 Jun 2017 6:12 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epn05mFe6ibU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 11:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:epmdi2FadjaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 Jun 2017 5:00 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:epl5j5F1drgU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 Jun 2017 11:08 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2017 10:34 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno.. can you please advise if it's ok for me to use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> myrepublic
>>>>>>>>>>>> modem? my concern is that it will 'talk' to MR, and register a
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection, and I'll be charged. Rob says just to put in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> TPG password
>>>>>>>>>>>> and username, and I can use this modem with my TPG account,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and that's
>>>>>>>>>>>> no prob, I can do that without connecting to the net, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>> MR setup
>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mrau-web-02.s3.amazonaws.com/au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Wi-Fi-Hub-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> step 4, says the modem will setup automatically, once I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> online, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> would that mean it will register me as a customer of MR?. TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what about the belong one? I don't have an account with them
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's give you a hint felix. I had an Optus modem running my
>>>>>>>>>>> Internode connection for a while until I put in my Cisco gear.
>>>>>>>>>>> I then reconfigured it to run on our Exetel network at work
>>>>>>>>>>> when our shitty Netcomm failed. I have never been charged by
>>>>>>>>>>> Optus...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but did you have an Optus account? I have an MR account
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The fact is felix that who you are connected to is designated
>>>>>>>>>>> by carrier codes assigned to your connection by the NBN and
>>>>>>>>>>> those codes give the ip range information to the modem and in
>>>>>>>>>>> the case of your MR modem when you are connected to their NBN
>>>>>>>>>>> service the modem is auto configured. If you manually configure
>>>>>>>>>>> it to use TPG it cannot connect to MR...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> however, I've just discovered that I need to be connected to the
>>>>>>>>>> internet to access the modem configuration page, as I've just
>>>>>>>>>> been experimenting with the Belong modem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No you don’t with the MR modem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my concern is, and you'll pardon my ignorance in these matters
>>>>>>>>>> (I hope), that once the modem connects to the internet it will
>>>>>>>>>> 'seek out' it's host MR and identify with my account.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FTTP doesn’t work like that. What RSP it talks to is determined by
>>>>>>>>> which port on the NBN NTU you plug it into. If you plug it into
>>>>>>>>> the one you are currently using, it will use the same RSP you are
>>>>>>>>> using now. The RSP is fixed to a particular port on the NBN NTU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't have that issue with Belong as I don't have an account
>>>>>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Telstra uses the same principal with their modems for NBN
>>>>>>>>>>> connections (it's done by mac addressing) and autoconfigure
>>>>>>>>>>> their modems with your details. Works well until they get their
>>>>>>>>>>> wires crossed... You can if you are a masochist setup a Telstra
>>>>>>>>>>> modem to work with your connection as well. The Belong modem
>>>>>>>>>>> (being part of Telstra) uses the same mac addressing principle.
>>>>>>>>>>> As long as you configure it to use TPG you will not have any
>>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I assume that 'configuring the modem' means copying the settings
>>>>>>>>>> from the TPG modem config page to the MR modem config page?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In saying that though if you have your home phone configured
>>>>>>>>>>> via voip through your current modem you may have some issues as
>>>>>>>>>>> some companies modems have the phone carrier hard coded into
>>>>>>>>>>> the modem and it cannot be changed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the home phone number was provided by TPG, and I believe that
>>>>>>>>>> with the NBN home phones are now voip phones,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so that could be an issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so i access the MR modem config page without internet connection,
>>>>>>>> and then change only the username and password.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, and that alone ensures that it can use the MR service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you mean can't?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I really should proof read, can't be bothered tho.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> then do I connect to the NBN box TPG port,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or the other port?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, that’s the one that the MR service is on.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok, I have put in the username and password, and connected via the
>>>>>> NBN TPG port, but I can't access the internet. it would seem to me
>>>>>> that I need to change other settings on the modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, likely. You need PPoE etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> eg. NTP servers, ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (the wifi speed was down to 1.1 mbps last night
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That wouldn’t be due to the Netcomm router,
>>>>>>> it will deliver something like 25 mbps fine. It
>>>>>>> just can't get within a bulls roar of the 100
>>>>>>> mbps that your FTTP can provide if you are
>>>>>>> paying for a 100/40 service with TPG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so I really need to do something,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is likely local wifi interference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may be able to fix that by using a different
>>>>>>> channel or using the 5GHz band if the TV can
>>>>>>> do that. The MR router can, the Netcomm can't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> although my PC connection is via ethernet)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, but your problem is with your TV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes. I can connect via LAN but then I have the problem that the tv
>>>>>> keeps connecting and disconnecting, making the LAN connection
>>>>>> virtually unusable
>>>>>
>>>>> Be interesting to see what happens with the MR router.
>>>>
>>>> you have said previously that the problem is due to the way that TPG
>>>> does things, and that MR does it differently,
>>>
>>> I said nothing of the sort with the problem you are seeing.
>>>
>>>> so I'm counting on the MR modem being much better,
>>>
>>> It is for most of us, but not for everyone.
>>>
>>>> and eliminating the problem,
>>>
>>> Remains to be seen where the problem is. If the problem is
>>> the TV, it may not make any difference at all. I suggested you
>>> TRY the MR modem given that its available to be tried and it
>>> is known to perform MUCH better than the Netcomm WITH
>>> WIFI and you said that one of the problems was with wifi.
>>>
>>>> so I can use the LAN connection and get constant speed.
>>>
>>> I never said anything about the MR modem doing LAN better.
>>>
>>>> btw.. the distance of the tv from the modem is a good 30 metres. that
>>>> would not be something causing an issue would it?
>>>
>>> Nar, that’s fine with a decent CAT5 or CAT5 cable and from
>>> memory you did say that you had tried a different one.
>>>
>>> If you havent, worth trying a different one or the MR modem
>>> and use wifi. BUT you appear to have severe wifi congestion
>>> given that the Netcomm cant even deliver a decent speed
>>> on wifi and you have never said if the TV can do 5GHz wifi.
>>
>> I seem to remember that the wi fi is 30 metres away, maybe need repeater?
>
>
> correct, however I do have a repeater which is only a few metres away, and 
> that's what the tv connects to

You keep leaving out vital info like this.

The problem could also just be the repeater.

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