Re: Internet connection question

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Internet connection question
Date	2017-07-02 13:17 +1000
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"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 6:54 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:erp89hFntelU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my 
>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>>>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>>>>>>> approx
>>>>>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>>>>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>>>>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
>>>>> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
>>>>> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>>>>>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>>>>>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>>>>>   it connected."
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what that was about now
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I figured it was working for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
>>>>> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
>>>>
>>>> no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the Edimax 
>>>> repeater.
>>>>
>>>> this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs to 
>>>> a LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru the 
>>>> roof area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable from that 
>>>> socket connects to an auto switch which distributes to various items in 
>>>> the room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and another the edimax 
>>>> repeater
>>>>
>>>>> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.
>>>>
>>>> (as above)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
>>>>> disconnect
>>>
>>> yes, the tv will not stay connected via lan. it momentarily finds the 
>>> connection, then disconnects, and keeps repeatedly doing so. so I need 
>>> to leave the lan cable disconnected to prevent the messages 
>>> connected/disconnected constantly popping up on the screen
>>>
>>>>> (I noticed something in the thread about you having
>>>>> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
>>>>> given up making complete sense of it),
>>>>
>>>> a bit like my mind really.. :(
>>>>
>>>>>   try connecting a laptop to
>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>
>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual 
>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although 
>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv 
>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am 
>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if 
>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I 
>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes, 
>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to 
>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it 
>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>
>> Nope, its the repeater that’s the problem.

> the repeater is not the problem

You don’t know that yet.

> because I'm not talking about the wifi connection. the wifi connection is 
> fine

But it might be what is confusing the TV getting
a reliable net connection over the physical cable.

It certainly wont be the length of the physical cable.

I'd get the MR modem working because it might
just be some quirk of the TV working with that.

>>> which prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>
>> You don’t boost digital signals and your distance is well within what is 
>> allowed with Cat5.
>>
>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal 
>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>
>> Nope.

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