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On 26-December-2015 10:12 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 26/12/2015 8:01 PM, felix_unger wrote:
>> On 24-December-2015 9:35 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/12/2015 4:15 PM, felix_unger wrote:
>>>> On 24-December-2015 4:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
>>>>>> Xeno wrote
>>>>>>> Noddy wrote
>>>>>>>> D Walford wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My son has gone over to the dark side, where he works in the UK
>>>>>>>>> everything is Mac and he has become a fan, after my latest 
>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>> problem he's telling me to dump the PC and buy a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is a perfectly sensible thing to do, *if* you like paying
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> the nose for your hardware,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good quality hardware costs, just like hardware in the PC world.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would never buy a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> I might, but only to develop iOS apps.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like to 'fiddle' (I make/repair/upgrade my own PC's) and Apple
>>>>>> actively discourage fiddling. they want users to pay a fortune to 
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> of their accredited dealers to do what one could easily do 
>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>> if it were a PC. but my very first personal computer was an Apple
>>>>>> Mac, with 128k of RAM (no, that's not a misprint!) and no hard 
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>> but it was technologically streets ahead of IBM machines of the day,
>>>>>> which were still using DOS. Win 3.1 hadn't been released of course,
>>>>>> but when it was it was just a crude copy of the Mac OS, which was
>>>>>> called 'finder' as I recall. However, as windows evolved I 
>>>>>> decided to
>>>>>> make the change. the cost of Mac hardware and software, the low cost
>>>>>> of PC software/hardware by comparison, and not to mention the
>>>>>> plethora available, and of course the ease of upgrading PC's were 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> crucial factors.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> want around 5% of the world's software made available to you
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course 95% of PC software is just duplicate functionality
>>>>>>> software that matches the functionality of the 5% of the Mac
>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and want to put up with Apple's bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What bullshit would that be Noddy?
>>>>>
>>>>>> how about the fact that you just have to guess most of time how 
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>> things? iPads don't even come with an instruction book for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> They do have a proper electronic manual. It would
>>>>> be completely stupid to have a printed one.
>>>>
>>>> what about someone who's never used one before. how are they 
>>>> supposed to
>>>> know how to get the electronic manual? apple should include a 'quick
>>>> start' guide, like most products have these days, and instructions on
>>>
>>> They do, it's an inbuilt tutorial.
>>
>> afaik I don't have it on my ipad.
>
> IIRC, it was there when you first ran your iPad. 

don't recall ever seeing it

> At least it was on the iPad3 and iPad4 we have here.

mine is iPad2

> It autostarted in the iPad initial setup sequence but you could skip 
> it. I seem to recall I did just that on the second iPad I set up.
>
> According to this; http://ipadacademy.com/ipad-manuals-and-guides/
>
> It was originally accessible via Safari but I notice the link no 
> longer works. That's because it's been relocated;
>
> http://help.apple.com/ipad/9/#/iPad9940e497

I'll bookmark that on the ipad in case I need to look up something

>
> You can also access it here though;
>
> http://demo.tizra.com/iPad_User_Guide/7

"Apple no longer includes a printed manual with devices like the iPad, 
and instead provides a downloadable version on its website. 
Surprisingly, their web version is not searchable on the iPad". typical. 
everything has to be cryptic with apple.

>
> Along with other more recent guides.
>
> It's not as neat and easy as it was in the original autostart version. 
> My iPad4 originally came with iOS6 or iOS7.
>
> I must say though, it's a lot easier to go to the App Store and 
> download the relevant user guide there. Most of the guides relate more 
> to the iOS version than they do to the actual iOS hardware so just 
> select the guide for your current iOS version. Mine is 9.2 so I 
> suspect yours would be too. 

it is

> That said, I have the user guide for iOS7 and that works well enough 
> for me.
>
> HTH
>

thanks

-- 
rgds,

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