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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> 
>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools have no
>>>>>>  understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't actually
>>>>>>  make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines with
>>>>>>  the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path between
>>>>>>  the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has already
>>>>>>  hit.
> 
>>>>> Just did this one,
>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91
> 
>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would
>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that
>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and
>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google
> 
>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of beer"
>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range given
>>>> in your AI answer
> 
>>> The grok response accurately points out that
>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit
> 
>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range of
>> 425-450mL
> 
> Bullshit does
> 
>> and always matches a schooner.
> 
> It doesn't say that either

It says it over and over from the start:

"18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in
 Australian slang"
"A "handle" is a common term for a schooner"
"So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners"

>>>> ans disputes that it's the same as a schooner   in the NT:
> 
>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names
> 
>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes
> 
>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit
> 
>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location.
> 
> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that
> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has
> been used recently, something google wouldnt have done

Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in
the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was
what prompted your question. Plus it clearly said it applied
Australia-wide.

>> It was   speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be way  
>> off.
> 
> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used
> 
> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for the NT

Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's
source is... nothing. No cites except the very ABC article that
prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy
of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got
the info from.

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  Re: Testing suggests Google’s AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 10:28 +1000
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