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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! |
| Date | 2018-11-02 17:33 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <pri1op$12fu$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <1806fe7d-04fa-4ab9-9f28-d8732ea21c90@googlegroups.com> <22d46797-5dcc-489d-acd8-72c52ba77506@googlegroups.com> <prhrfr$n2e$1@gioia.aioe.org> <4468b20a-3af5-4770-aefb-25d194075468@googlegroups.com> |
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:46:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 9:37:40 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> There is no curvature and no 'schmervature ' of space !!! >>>> >>>> space is nothing!! >>>> and has no physical/Dimensions / properties >>>> except length dimension -- >>>> --that by itself cannot be detected >>>> if no mass in it !!! >>>> for me >>>> Mass is the main ''hero ' of all physics >>>> I was dwelling on it here along many years ! >>>> >>>> that does not to say that >>>> I AM not A GREAT ADMIRER OF EINSTEIN !! >>>> FOR >>>> his >>>> E=mc^2 >>>> >>>> for his photoelectric findings >>>> and his SR!! >>>> that is as well right !!!! >>>> >>>> ==================================> >> but >>>> Einstein was only a human being >>>> not an Angle from heaven >>>> and >>>> 'Hominum -errata est'' (spell ??in Roman >>>> ====== >>>> now >>>> if!! he was wrong about 'curved space' >>>> just imagine!! the damage it was causing >>>> along more than 100 years !! >>>> by preventing / ''screening'' some >>>> other real >>>> needed advance !! >>>> >>>> NO ONE EVER USED IT FOR ANYTHING >>>> >>>> not to speak about PRACTICAL USES >>>> even NASSA by its interstellar projects >>>> (to send a human being to Mars!!! >>>> does no use it!! >>>> except >>>> the ordinary Newtonian physics !! >>>> now >>>> what on earth another ** responsible project** we have >>>> other than sending a human being to mars ??? >>>> 2 >>>> my alternative claim is that >>>> even fantastical it looks in our days >>>> that >>>> ============================================> >> Mass** IS THE >>>> CREAEOR OF **ALL**!! FORCES ---INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! >>>> ==========================================> >> the Faraday ingenious >>>> experiment with the permanent magnet 100yesre ago !!! >>>> was the first TABGIBLE clue to it !! >>>> >>>> unprecedented !! >>>> >>>> ===================================> >> TIA (humbly ) >>>> Eng >>>> Yehiel Porat >>>> 2/11/2018 >>>> =====================> > now >>> >>> odd Bodkin (anonymous)!! >>> wanted to cheat us >>> by saying that: >>> >>> GPS is using 'curved space' physics >>> >>> so what do you think about it ? >>> >>> TIA >>> Y.Porat >>> >>> ===================> > >> >> I somehow knew you were incapable of doing a simple Google search, and that >> your ONLY recourse is to ask people here for help. Doesnt this embarrass >> you a little? >> http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > ========================thank you Bodkin > indeed you are better than me in searching > the net > now > please note > > the GPS system is based on a **thick net**of satellites SURROUND ALL OUR GLOBE !! > > if space is curved > why do we need ALL THAT THICK NET OF SATTELITES !! Can you at least go to www.wikipedia.org and read the article on GPS? > > IF SPACE WAS CURVEED THE EM WAVES > WOULD FOOW THE SATTELITES > EVEN IF NOT 'SISED BY SIDE !! No. You have the mistaken impression that any object at that elevation at any speed would follow the same orbits as the satellites. You have a FUNDAMENTALLY poor understanding of what curved space means. It doesn’t mean that objects at that height all follow the curved track of curved spacetime. THAT’S NOT WHAT IT MEANS! > but run around ''curved space' that is; actualy > not space but just our globe that is curved !~~ globe > that is curved !!!with no need of all that side by side net > probably > with relative short distance straight lines !! Pay attention. The curvature of the surface of the earth has NOTHING to do with the curvature of spacetime at the earth’s surface. The radius of curvature of spacetime near the earth’s surface is 31 million billion feet. The radius of curvature of the earth’s surface is 21 million feet. Do those look like the same numbers to you!?! > > em waves do not move in curved lines ?!! > they move in straight lines > and therefore there is the need of > an > eye to eye system !! > not because curved space !! > but curved globe > 2 > I indicated that > even according to my understanding > SR is right !!! > > so SR calculations are needed !! > and i understand it > but not > Gr calculations > we have to find out > if they use > GR calculations > or may be > just SR calculations > and it is their mistake to mix > Sr > with GR ?? > we have to ask > the real people > who did it > 'with their hands'' > and not from ones that just'' heard' about it and were mixing > Sr with GR!?? > =================TIA > Y.P > ============== > > > > > > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 00:37 -0700
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