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Re: Then you win.

From Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de>
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Subject Re: Then you win.
Date 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
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*Dr. Joachim Neudert* schrieb:

> Am 03.12.16 um 00:13 schrieb Michael Zink:
>> Aber egal wie rum: Entweder zahlen doch Deutsche drauf oder es kommt
>> kein Geld rein.
>
> Eigentlich nicht: Denn nun kommt das Geld hinzu, das Durchreisende
> bezahlen. So wie das in Österreich, der Schweiz, Italien seit
> Jahrzehnten bestens funktioniert und Einnahmen generiert.

Außer den Bayern hat sich nie jemand dran gestört, aber da muss
Deutschland halt mit, wenn dem Bayer der Buckel juckt...

> Etwa 500 Millionen Überschuß, nach Abzug der Betreiberkosten, werden
> erwartet.

Einklich VOR Abzug der Kosten von geschätzt 200 Mio. Bleiben also im
günstigen Fall 300 Mio hängen, die man sich bestimmt auch mit weniger
Aufwand irgendwo hätte holen können. DobRind will bis 2030 270 Mrd. in
die Infrastruktur stecken, da sind die 300 Mio jährlich ein Fliegenschiss.

Nein, dem Bayern hat das Fell gejuckt und alle dürfen es mit dem
Schwachsinn ausbaden...
-- 
bis denne

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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
      Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
              Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
  Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
            Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
            Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
        Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
      Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100

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