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| From | Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: Then you win. |
| Date | 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100 |
| Organization | none |
| Message-ID | <eaedg3F3mjlU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <nvg5qr$d6f$1@news.albasani.net> <o1pi7a$9pp$1@solani.org> |
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 17:13:31 +0100, Matthias Eißing wrote: >- Kurzzeitvignetten für 2,50 >- 1:1 Entlastung wohl nur für besonders schadstoffarme Autos Kleine Korrektur (soweit ich das richtig verstanden habe). - Kurzzeit"vignette" ab 2,50 (Irgendwi soll das doch auch vom Schadstoffausstoß abhängen. Ist das nicht wieder ne verbotene Benachteiligung, wenn EU-Ausländer wegen ein paar EUR die Schadstoffklasse entsprechend deutschen Rechts nachweisen müssen? Oder kann man das irgendwie einfach lösen? Sicher nicht ...) - Besonders schadstoffarme Autos (also zumindest auf dem Prüfstand oder im Temperaturfenster von ein paar K) solen ja 100 Mio geschenkt bekommen. Also bleiben wieder mal 100 Mio weniger übrig. Ob jetzt die "Stinker" 1:1 oder weniger entlastet werden sollen, habe ich nicht ganz verstanden. Aber egal wie rum: Entweder zahlen doch Deutsche drauf oder es kommt kein Geld rein. Und ich bin mal gespannt, wie lange es dauert, bis die Maut (wenn sie denn so eingeführt wird) leider, leider erhöht werden muß ... Auf Wiederlesen Michael -- Das Internet darf kein GRUNDrechtsfreier Raum werden!
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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100
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