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| From | Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: Then you win. |
| Date | 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100 |
| Organization | none |
| Message-ID | <e8aqtcFqfp0U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:35:23 +0100, Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote: >Fahr einmal um den Bodensee, und neben der österreichischen >10-Tages-Vignette für 8,80 Euro (für 3 km Pfändertunnel, nicht >umfahrbar) besitzt Du dann auch eine Schweizer Jahresvignette >https://www.ch.ch/de/autobahnvignette/ für 40 Fränkli, die Dich zur >Benutzung der Schwyzer Autobahn berechtigt, aber nur bis 31. Januar 2017. Wenn ich das machen würde, würde ich mit der Bahn fahren und würde keine Maut zahlen. ;-) Aber wenn ich das richtig verstehe, lag ich also richtig. >Ungerecht? Tagesvignetten verkaufen? Ungerecht aus deutscher Sicht. Kam das nicht rüber? Wenn schon Gerechtigkeit ein Hauptgrund ist, warum sollen "wir" dann denen Tageskarten anbieten, die "uns" keine gewähren? >Was glaubst Du warum wir hier auf die Idee kamen, unsere Autobahnen >nicht mehr kostenlos zur Verfügung zu stellen... Das ist mir schon klar und ich kann den Wunsch auch nachvollziehen. Trotzdem finde ich das keine gute Idee. Neben einigen anderen, eher grundsätzlichen Gründen, weil ich nicht glaube, daß alle Anforderungen erfüllt werden können wenn merklich Geld übrig bleiben soll. Auf Wiederlesen Michael -- Das Internet darf kein GRUNDrechtsfreier Raum werden!
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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100
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