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Re: Then you win.

From Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de>
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Subject Re: Then you win.
Date 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
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*Dr. Joachim Neudert* schrieb:
> Am 04.11.16 um 08:56 schrieb Lothar Frings:
>> Dr. Joachim Neudert tat kund:
>>
>>> First they ignore you.
>>> Then they laugh at you.
>>> Then they fight you.
>>> Then you win.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Pkw-Maut-EU-Kommission-stellt-sich-nicht-mehr-quer-3456029.html
>>
>> Merkel hat ihrem Äffchen den Hals aus der
>> Schlinge gezogen, und "Kein deutscher
>> Autofahrer" wird zu "Die meisten deutschen
>> Autofahrer" umdefiniert.
>> Dadurch wird eine Lüge zur Fastwahrheit.
>>
>
> Ich glaube, es bleibt bei "kein deutscher Autofahrer". Deswegen wird die
> Neuregelung im Inland ja 100 Millionen Euro weniger einspielen als bisher.
>
> Wetten, daß?

Sie wird nichts einbringen, sondern nur kosten. Aber da das alles vor
der nächsten Wahl sowieso nicht mehr stattfindet, gehe ich mal davon
aus, dass Juncker da etwas mit Merkel gemauschelt hat. Gib ihm sein
Spielzeug jetzt und wir schreiben es aus dem nächsten Koalitionsvertrag
wieder heraus, Jean Claude. So bekommen wir den Clown elegant ruhig
gestellt.

> Bisher hat sich Dobrindt seinen schlauen Kritikern gegenüber als noch
> schlauer gezeigt und mit deutlich mehr Standvermögen.

Ach komm, er hat doch selbst nicht mehr dran geglaubt und musste
letztlich einiges einstecken, damit er es überhaupt noch so weit brachte.
-- 
bis denne

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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
      Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
              Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
  Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
            Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
            Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
        Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
      Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100

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