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| From | Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: Then you win. |
| Date | 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <eafrh4FdnieU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <eaedg3F3mjlU1@mid.individual.net> <o1todl$v74$1@news.albasani.net> <774203702.502443867.557663.meissing-gmx.de@news.solani.org> <o1tu1m$8lr$1@news.albasani.net> <eafdnaFagiuU1@mid.individual.net> |
Am 03.12.2016 um 09:23 schrieb Michael Bode: > Wo kann man denn konkrete Angaben über die Maut nachlesen? Ich hab > bisher kaum was dazu gefunden. Der Focus schreibt was über eine > flächendeckende Kennzeichenerfassung. Was kostet sowas? Wer betreibt es? Höchstwahrscheinlich Toll Collect, die jetzt schon die Mautbrücken betreiben. Damit hat man dann auch endlich das lange verzweifelt gesuchte Argument, das System auf ständige Vollüberwachung auszubauen (bislang war es lediglich darauf ausgelegt, immer nur [wechselnde] 10% der Mautbrücken gleichzeitig aktiv zu haben, da stichprobenartige Überprüfung auf Vorhandensein und Aktivität der OBUs ja reicht). Unter dem Vorwand der "Ausländermaut" kommt jetzt also die Totalüberwachung der Bewegung sämtlicher deutscher Autofahrer. > Was passiert mit den Daten? Wird das System auch gleich zur > Geschwindigkeitskontrolle benutzt? Es ist so sicher wie das Amen in der Kirche, daß jegliche Überwachungsfantasie, die sich mit den anfallenden Daten realisieren läßt, realisiert wird. Geschwindigkeitskontrolle ist da eher harmlos. Löschung der Daten nach 13 Monaten? Sicher doch. Aber vorher gehen Kopien ans BKA, und die interessiert das nicht. Hanno
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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
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Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
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Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100
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