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| From | Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics, alt.global-warming |
| Subject | Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated |
| Date | 2015-07-26 18:39 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mp420u$i6n$3@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 7/26/2015 4:37 PM, Unum wrote: > On 7/26/2015 5:41 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >> On 7/26/2015 3:32 PM, Unum wrote: >>> On 7/26/2015 3:38 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>> On 7/26/2015 12:36 PM, Unum wrote: >>>>> On 7/26/2015 2:03 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>> On 7/26/2015 11:09 AM, Unum wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/26/2015 12:38 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/26/2015 10:19 AM, Unum wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 1:07 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 10:44 AM, Unum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 12:00 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 9:32 AM, Unum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 10:03 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:54:45 -0500, Unum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 3:28 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:23:22 -0500, Unum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/2015 9:22 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/2015 7:18 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/15 8:06 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean the journal 'Atmospheric Chemistry and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status is currently 1st stage 'discussion paper'. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long ways to go before acceptance for final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publication, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it passes 1st and 2nd stages of review, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revisions, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may not happen until long after events like Paris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015. Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait, there's your answer right there for hyping a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-publication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft in the media. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Chomp, Did you find anything in the content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin Trenberth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilarious to see him cite Trenberth! Next week the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chumpsky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trenberth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chom knows that the rational (scientific) attitude is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the person. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obvious lie, on alt.global-warming chumpsky has attempted to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smear Chris Turney and John Cook in just the past couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lessee ... did Unum's post examine the idea or the person? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently chumpsky didn't "find anything in the content that >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically correct". So what idea are you referring to? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In order to take Hansen seriously one has to imagine that >>>>>>>>>>>> SLR -- >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>> shown no acceleration since the end of the Maunder minimum -- >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> somehow, at >>>>>>>>>>>> some point, begin to exponentially increase over the next 85 >>>>>>>>>>>> years, >>>>>>>>>>>> Redraw >>>>>>>>>>>> the exponential curve in your head as many times as >>>>>>>>>>>> necessary in >>>>>>>>>>>> order to >>>>>>>>>>>> acheive suspension of disbelief. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKudLCwWwAIH8SP.png:large >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Presumably assumes the ice sheets on Greenland and the Antarctic >>>>>>>>>>> melt into the ocean at increasing rates as many studies predict. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WTF does "presumably assumes" mean? Is that what yer regard as >>>>>>>>>> sciency >>>>>>>>>> language, lil buddy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You didn't like my choice of words? Oh darn! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, apparently you didn't "find anything in the content >>>>>>>>>>> that wasn't scientifically correct". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now we get a tedious parsing of some other words with an obvious >>>>>>>>> and clear meaning. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey, ice sheets will melt faster, and I mean definitely maybe! Yer >>>>>>>> unambiguously ambiguous language is the language of equivocating >>>>>>>> fruitcakes >>>>>>>> and weasels. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First define what is meant by "scientifically correct". To me it >>>>>>>>>> should mean >>>>>>>>>> that you have some evidence that nobody has been able to refute. >>>>>>>>>> Hansen has >>>>>>>>>> been refuted by a number of fellow scientists, therefor one or >>>>>>>>>> more of >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> claims fails the criteria. In reality there is actually no such >>>>>>>>>> thing as >>>>>>>>>> "scientifically correct", only evidence, arguments and claims >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> have yet >>>>>>>>>> to be contradicted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It could well be that he's been refuted, but I'm noticing you >>>>>>>>> aren't citing any of it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yer go back and read agin, lil buddy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All I see is a link to a chart, if that's all you got fine >>>>>>> by me! >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep looking. >>>>> >>>>> Will I see something that isn't there? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I will be more than happy to oblige once you or Sam clarify what >>>>>>>>>> standard of >>>>>>>>>> evidence is required to satisfy the unscientific criteria of >>>>>>>>>> "scientifically >>>>>>>>>> correct". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If it isn't clear to you now, no amount of explanation will help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A literal interpretation of "scientifically correct" is "having no >>>>>>>> errors" or >>>>>>>> "conforming to fact". How exactly do you assert that a future >>>>>>>> prediction >>>>>>>> involving high uncertainty "conforms to fact" or "has no errors"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So that's your personal bogus interpretation? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, actually the dictionary definition of correct when used in >>>>>> adjective form. >>>>>> >>>>>> "conforming to fact or truth; free from error; accurate" >>>>> >>>>> I can understand why you would be so desperate to interpret the >>>>> phrase as something impossible to achieve. I'll stick with my >>>>> perfectly >>>>> reasonable definition below. >>>> >>>> And I'll stick to pointing out the unsciency foolishness of yer >>>> definition. >>> >>> You begged me on your knees for a clarification and I explained it to >>> you. Meanwhile land ice melting has accelerated, hasn't it. >>> >>> "On average, some 310 cubic kilometres of ice was lost from the ice >>> shelves each year during this time, and the rate of loss is increasing >>> rapidly." >> >> Keywest Florida didn't get the message: > > That the rate of loss is increasing rapidly? Other places seem to > be getting it. > >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKudLCwWwAIH8SP.png:large > > So now Key West is the one place on Earth that reflects SLR all over > the planet? Your "conforming to fact or truth" didn't last very long. > > http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/searise.html > > http://www.grida.no/publications/vg/climate/page/3072.aspx > > http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warming/impact_sea_level_rise.html > > >>>>>> We'll just say it >>>>>>> means "conforming with the principles of science". >>>>>> >>>>>> So 10ft of SLR by 2100 is "scientifically correct", i.e., conforming >>>>>> to fact >>>>>> or truth, free from error, and accurate? >>>>> >>>>> Its simply in conformance with observed empirical evidence such as >>>>> accelerating melting of land ice as has been posted here many times. >>>> >>>> So 10ft of SLR by 2100 is a "scientifically correct" fact? >>>> >>>>>>>> Greenmobbers normally make stupid statements, so you and Sam are >>>>>>>> perfectly in >>>>>>>> character... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When desperation sets in you get around to the personal attack phase >>>>>>> pretty quick, don't you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Coming from you, the most ironic statement ever. >>>>> >>>>> We'll just note that you did in fact resort to personal attack. >>>> >>>> The whore Unum takes one ettiquette class and suddenly she becomes >>>> self-righteous about courtesy and manners! Considering yer extensive >>>> history >>>> of Tourette syndrome, ironic doesn't begin to cover it. Have you been >>>> taking >>>> Tourette suppressants, or something? >>> >>> Getting a little excited? >>> >>>> And what's with the use of majestic plurals, did your ettiquette class >>>> elevate >>>> your caste to royalty? >>>> >>>> And not just >>> >>> Click send a little too soon? >> >> So 10ft of SLR by 2100 is a "scientifically correct" fact? > > You are welcome to try to find something in a lieblog that indicates > otherwise. Better scramble! 90% of the Florida keys are less than 5ft above > sea level. Key West is at about 3 feet. That's not how it works, lil buddy, the onus is not on me to prove or disprove anything. If you claim 10ft of SLR by 2100 is a "scientifically correct" fact, the onus is entirely yours.
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-23 19:06 -0700
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-23 19:22 -0700
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-25 09:54 -0500
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-25 11:32 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-25 10:00 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-25 12:44 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world's coasts by the end of the century--sooner than previously anticipated "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 10:54 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world's coasts by the end of the century--sooner than previously anticipated HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 14:28 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-25 11:07 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 12:19 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-26 10:38 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 13:09 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the worlds coasts by the end of the centurysooner than previously anticipated Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-07-26 14:27 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-26 12:03 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 14:36 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-26 13:38 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 17:32 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-26 15:41 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 18:37 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-26 18:39 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 21:11 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-27 08:57 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-27 17:53 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world?s coasts by the end of the century?sooner than previously anticipated R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-07-26 21:57 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world?s coasts by the end of the century?sooner than previously anticipated R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-07-27 00:17 +0000
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Paul Aubrin <chu8i443@free.fr> - 2015-07-25 19:27 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Unum <noneof@yourbusiness.com> - 2015-07-26 12:29 -0500
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Paul Aubrin <chu8i443@free.fr> - 2015-07-26 18:40 +0000
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 11:07 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:15 -0400
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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world¢s coasts by the end of the centurysooner than previously anticipated Desertphile <Desertphile@nospam.org> - 2015-07-29 13:33 -0600
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world?s coasts by the end of the century?sooner than previously anticipated R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-07-29 19:48 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world?s coasts by the end of the century?sooner than previously anticipated R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-07-25 21:04 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Paul Aubrin <chu8i443@free.fr> - 2015-07-25 18:34 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century---sooner than previously anticipated benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 16:04 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-24 03:18 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-24 00:51 +0000
Re: Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Nobody <not@home.anymore> - 2015-07-24 01:49 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 00:18 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 07:32 -0400
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm> - 2015-07-23 16:14 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world's coasts by the end of the century--sooner than previously anticipated "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-07-24 21:23 -0700
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-25 06:45 +0000
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 10:45 -0600
Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-25 16:57 +0000
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