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Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated

From Chom Noamsky <moose-riders-suck@bc.commmmm>
Newsgroups sci.physics, alt.global-warming
Subject Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated
Date 2015-07-26 12:03 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 7/26/2015 11:09 AM, Unum wrote:
> On 7/26/2015 12:38 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote:
>> On 7/26/2015 10:19 AM, Unum wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2015 1:07 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2015 10:44 AM, Unum wrote:
>>>>> On 7/25/2015 12:00 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 9:32 AM, Unum wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 10:03 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:54:45 -0500, Unum wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 3:28 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:23:22 -0500, Unum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/2015 9:22 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/2015 7:18 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/15 8:06 PM, Chom Noamsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean the journal 'Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status is currently 1st stage 'discussion paper'.  The paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long ways to go before acceptance for final publication,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it passes 1st and 2nd stages of review, including revisions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may not happen until long after events like Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015.  Oh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait, there's your answer right there for hyping a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-publication
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft in the media.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Hey Chomp, Did you find anything in the content that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      scientifically correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin Trenberth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hilarious to see him cite Trenberth! Next week the chumpsky will
>>>>>>>>>>> attack
>>>>>>>>>>> Trenberth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chom knows that the rational (scientific) attitude is to examine
>>>>>>>>>> ideas,
>>>>>>>>>> not the person.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obvious lie, on alt.global-warming chumpsky has attempted to
>>>>>>>>> smear Chris Turney and John Cook in just the past couple of days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lessee ... did Unum's post examine the idea or the person?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently chumpsky didn't "find anything in the content that wasn't
>>>>>>> scientifically correct". So what idea are you referring to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to take Hansen seriously one has to imagine that SLR --
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> shown no acceleration since the end of the Maunder minimum -- will
>>>>>> somehow, at
>>>>>> some point, begin to exponentially increase over the next 85 years,
>>>>>> Redraw
>>>>>> the exponential curve in your head as many times as necessary in
>>>>>> order to
>>>>>> acheive suspension of disbelief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKudLCwWwAIH8SP.png:large
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably assumes the ice sheets on Greenland and the Antarctic
>>>>> melt into the ocean at increasing rates as many studies predict.
>>>>
>>>> WTF does "presumably assumes" mean?  Is that what yer regard as sciency
>>>> language, lil buddy?
>>>
>>> You didn't like my choice of words? Oh darn!
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, apparently you didn't "find anything in the content
>>>>> that wasn't scientifically correct".
>>>
>>> Now we get a tedious parsing of some other words with an obvious
>>> and clear meaning.
>>
>> Hey, ice sheets will melt faster, and I mean definitely maybe!  Yer
>> unambiguously ambiguous language is the language of equivocating
>> fruitcakes
>> and weasels.
>>
>>>> First define what is meant by "scientifically correct". To me it
>>>> should mean
>>>> that you have some evidence that nobody has been able to refute.
>>>> Hansen has
>>>> been refuted by a number of fellow scientists, therefor one or more of
>>>> his
>>>> claims fails the criteria.  In reality there is actually no such
>>>> thing as
>>>> "scientifically correct", only evidence, arguments and claims which
>>>> have yet
>>>> to be contradicted.
>>>
>>> It could well be that he's been refuted, but I'm noticing you
>>> aren't citing any of it.
>>
>> Yer go back and read agin, lil buddy!
>
> All I see is a link to a chart, if that's all you got fine
> by me!

Keep looking.

>>>> I will be more than happy to oblige once you or Sam clarify what
>>>> standard of
>>>> evidence is required to satisfy the unscientific criteria of
>>>> "scientifically
>>>> correct".
>>>
>>> If it isn't clear to you now, no amount of explanation will help.
>>
>> A literal interpretation of "scientifically correct" is "having no
>> errors" or
>> "conforming to fact".  How exactly do you assert that a future prediction
>> involving high uncertainty "conforms to fact" or "has no errors"?
>
> So that's your personal bogus interpretation?

Nope, actually the dictionary definition of correct when used in 
adjective form.

"conforming to fact or truth; free from error; accurate"

We'll just say it
> means "conforming with the principles of science".

So 10ft of SLR by 2100 is "scientifically correct", i.e., conforming to 
fact or truth, free from error, and accurate?

>> Greenmobbers normally make stupid statements, so you and Sam are
>> perfectly in
>> character...
>
> When desperation sets in you get around to the personal attack phase
> pretty quick, don't you.

Coming from you, the most ironic statement ever.

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New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 15:20 -0600
  Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-23 22:13 +0000
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        Re: New research suggests rising oceans could swamp the world’s coasts by the end of the century—sooner than previously anticipated Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 18:41 -0600
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