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Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.)

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RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:48:51 -0700
> Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > WindowMaker, meanwhile, just keeps rocking on ...
>> 
>> If only more developers took advantage of GNUStep, they would realize 
>> what a waste of time KDE and Gnome and the rest are.
>> 
>> Sadly it looks like GNUStep, while being actively worked on itself, is 
>> little-used overall.  A Webkit browser that takes advantage of Safari 
>> plugins would probably go a long way toward jump-starting a real 
>> GNUStep desktop.
> 
> Yes, I keep checking out Etoile [1], hoping for something new and
> exciting - an alternative, and each time I conclude it's got a long way
> to go and not enough people are excited about or working on the
> project.  Too bad!   Realistically, all I need in a desktop environment
> are: a file manager, a way to launch apps (preferably, via Alt-F2 or
> another key combo), and a windowing or tiling mechanism.  And I realize
> I can have all of those things with something as simple as Windowmaker,
> FVWM, TWM, or Ratpoison.  Then I ask what the heck the whole rest of
> the Gnome or KDE environment gets me and I conclude: not much.  

My question exactly. What does a "desktop environment" buy me? A bunch
of second or third rate programs that are somehow "integrated"? A
consistent theme -- so what, unless the program is *really* bizarre,
I'll adapt to it or find something else, reminds me of IBM's big push
about 20 years ago for CUA (Completely USeless Abomination) where they
broke perfectly useful applications for their vision of unity.
Last time I tried KDE it reminded me too much of Windows, took almost
as long as my work machine to start up, with a bunch of (to me)
useless eye candy.
> 
> [1] http://etoileos.com/etoile/

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Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-24 20:07 +0000
  Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) "cykros" <cykros@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-17 23:14 -0400
    Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-18 09:58 +0000
      Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 12:48 -0700
        Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-19 10:15 +0000
          Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-06-19 20:02 +0000
            Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-06-20 02:49 -0300
              Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-20 09:28 +0000
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon,  Classic, Unity, etc.) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-06-20 15:20 -0300
              Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-06-20 19:59 +0000
            Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-06-22 16:40 +0300
          Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-19 17:45 -0700
      Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-06-18 23:50 +0300
      Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-06-21 01:18 +0100
        Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-21 02:16 -0700
          Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-06-21 13:05 +0100
            Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-06-21 18:54 +0200
              Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-21 20:05 +0300
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-06-21 22:04 +0200
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-06-21 22:07 +0200
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-06-22 05:20 +0200
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-06-23 19:51 +0300
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-06-23 22:46 +0200
                Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-06-25 20:11 +0300
    Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) A Lurker <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-06-19 18:59 +0000

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