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Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.)

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RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:

> On 20 Jun 2014 02:49:07 -0300
> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
>> Happily, the devs of wicd offer a curses version that runs just fine
>> in an xterm under twm so I'm good to go now.  But making the default
>> for a useful tool include a requirement for a DE or the equivalent is
>> ominous and bodes ill for KISS.
> 
> No, there's still hope!  I've got your solution(s), having been through
> the same issue as you.  Several developers have written systray apps
> for Windowmaker. 

I *did* mention a stand-alone sys-tray as a possible but unwanted
option.  And that wicd-curses is doing fine.  So it's not a matter of
hope.  I'm already out of the hole.

The thought intended to be salient was a surmise that devs assume a DE
or similarly intensive graphics-dominated user interface. To the
extent that that's true, my remarks apply.

There's no question in my mind that a windowing environment (X) is a
huge improvement over parallel consoles, hacks such as screen(1)
notwithstanding.  But I'm inclined to share the deprecation offered
by other posters of a DE, including WMs that exfoliate numerous GUI
purties.

Looking at stuff about Window Maker, I'd include it in that last
category. Not for me if I can help it.

Well, the remainder saved (thanks) for reference, in case, at some
point, I have to drink the KoolAde and go for a WM with all the
wonderful Windoes/Mac Wannabe Graphic Goodness.


> It's just a little square dockapp, like the rest of them, and it
> gives a 'home' to any application looking for a systray in which to
> put its icon.  I use it with sylpheed, psi, and networkmanager with
> no problems whatsoever.  See:
> 
> http://en.miheev.info/2006/12/23/trayer.html
> http://blog.bigsmoke.us/2009/04/08/wmsystray
> 
> Even better is something called stalonetray, which does the same
> thing but works perfectly with FVWM, Openbox, and others:
> 
> http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/wmhints.html
> 
> Lastly, there's Docker, which also works with several window managers:
> http://nixbit.com/cat/desktop-environment/tools/docker/


-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-24 20:07 +0000
  Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) "cykros" <cykros@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-17 23:14 -0400
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            Re: Gnome 3, three years after the Gnomesplosion (MATE, Cinnamon, Classic, Unity, etc.) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-06-20 02:49 -0300
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