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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | de.alt.folklore.computer |
| Subject | Re: Triumph of the Nerds |
| Date | 2024-05-06 10:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <l9rj0cF7d7iU7@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Hermann Riemann, 2024-05-06 09:58:
> Am 05.05.24 um 16:37 schrieb Arno Welzel:
>> Stefan Ram, 2024-05-05 13:41:
>>
>>> poc@pocnet.net schrieb oder zitierte:
>>>> Vielleicht ist das blauäugug von mir, aber ich bin mir sicher, dass man auch
>>>> in C sauber und sicher programmieren kann.
>>>
>>> Diese Meinung sollte jeder teilen, der eine Sprache wie Python
>>> empfiehlt, denn Python /ist/ ja in C geschrieben. Wenn es nicht
>>> möglich wäre, sicher in C zu programmieren, dann wäre Python
>>> also auch nicht sicher. Zudem sind viele Python-Bibliotheken
>>> ganz oder teilweise in C geschrieben.
>>
>> Man kann in jeder Sprache "sauber und sicher programmieren".
>>
>> Die Frage ist nur, wie aufwendig ist es und wie hoch die
>> Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass sicherheitsrelevante Fehler unbemerkt bleiben.
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> char buf[10000];
>> FILE *fp;
>>
>> fp = fopen("foobar", "r");
>> fread(buf, 100000, 1, fp);
>> fclose(fp);
>>
>> Einfach nur an einer Stelle eine 0 zuviel angegeben. Dem Compiler ist
>> das egal, der Entwickler sieht es vielleicht nicht.
>
> Wenn ich eine Datei einlese,
> frage ich erst mal die Dateigröße ab.
> Bei einer Textdatei nehme ich p=malloc(len_+8)
> memset(p,0,4); memset(p+len_+4,0,4);
> und read(p+4,len_);
> Um beim scannen etwas vor und zurückschauen zu können.
Ja, dass man es besser machen *kann*, habe ich ja nicht verneint. Es
ging ja bewusst um ein Beispiel, was Probleme aufzeigen soll.
Ein anderes Beispiel sind Rekursionen, wo jede rekursiv aufgerufene
Funktion durch lokale Variablen Platz auf dem Stack belegt und der Stack
irgendwann überläuft, weil die Rekursion zu tief wird. Selbst wenn die
Rekursion eine Abbruchbedingung hat, die auch irgendwan eintritt, kann
der Stack dennoch zu klein sein.
--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de
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Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Pachta <mipani@gmx.de> - 2024-04-06 10:06 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-06 11:37 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-06 11:14 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-06 11:39 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-08 12:27 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-08 13:33 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-17 17:33 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2024-04-18 08:46 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-04-18 19:41 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-19 18:44 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-20 22:34 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-21 17:18 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 07:41 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 08:49 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 11:38 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-04-24 16:28 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-24 18:55 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 20:53 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-30 13:33 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:11 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 18:49 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-02 21:14 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-02 21:16 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 07:46 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-03 20:21 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:03 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-04 07:14 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-05-04 09:37 +0200
C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 11:23 +0200
Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 13:17 +0200
Re: C Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-05-04 14:47 +0200
Re: C Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:43 +0200
Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:41 +0200
Re: C "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 02:08 +0200
Re: C Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:41 +0200
Re: C Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2024-05-05 16:02 +0000
Re: C Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2024-05-05 23:47 +0000
Re: C "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:55 +0200
Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:50 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:26 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-04 10:01 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 12:19 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:47 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 13:20 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-04 09:09 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:23 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-05 10:16 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:18 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 18:41 +0200
Pascal (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:55 +0200
Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 06:40 +0200
Re: Pascal "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-07 07:48 +0200
Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 08:26 +0200
Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 13:04 +0200
Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 14:57 +0200
Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 13:11 +0000
Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 13:55 +0000
Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 21:33 +0200
Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 07:42 +0000
Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:09 +0200
Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 12:37 +0200
Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:42 +0200
Re: Pascal Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2024-05-12 11:36 +0200
Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-12 13:42 +0000
Re: Pascal Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2024-05-12 19:19 +0200
Re: Pascal Andreas Karrer <ak-4a@gmx.ch> - 2024-05-12 21:39 +0000
Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 16:09 +0200
Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 17:49 +0200
Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 20:56 +0200
Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-12 19:46 +0000
Re: Pascal Peter Müller <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 22:00 +0200
Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:16 +0200
Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:20 +0200
Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 21:13 +0200
Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-13 10:39 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 09:20 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:03 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-08 04:13 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 12:01 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-13 01:54 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-13 10:51 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-13 13:45 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-13 14:04 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-13 17:23 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 11:22 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 15:57 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 18:30 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 21:54 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 13:04 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 11:45 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 20:53 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 08:42 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 21:56 +0000
Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 21:06 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen (was: Triumph of the Nerds) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 07:31 +0000
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 10:12 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 13:03 +0000
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 16:03 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 16:57 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 17:36 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 18:52 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 03:49 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 19:22 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 04:07 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 17:00 +0000
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 20:25 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 20:55 +0000
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 23:53 +0200
Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 04:26 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:53 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 20:09 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 12:50 +0200
Yoda expressions (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:39 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 14:16 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 19:04 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:28 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 18:33 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 13:09 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:01 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:01 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 20:15 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:18 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:36 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:37 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:51 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2024-05-06 07:41 +0000
C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:13 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:58 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:34 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 14:00 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:57 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 12:06 +0000
C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:29 +0200
Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 06:49 +0200
Re: C Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:30 +0000
Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 09:42 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 18:55 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:03 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:32 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 09:44 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 08:26 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:13 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-05-07 21:50 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 21:49 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:16 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:10 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-08 08:40 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 14:19 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-08 15:14 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 18:16 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 17:30 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:20 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 12:19 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 17:52 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:43 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 16:48 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:40 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 14:26 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:38 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 21:09 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-02 19:46 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 18:44 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:09 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 12:58 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 15:07 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:06 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-30 17:40 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-01 07:17 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-01 09:10 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:40 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-01 12:18 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 20:44 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-02 07:31 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 05:54 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-03 09:25 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 08:35 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-03 11:20 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:13 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 21:14 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-06 07:48 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:12 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-06 07:49 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-06 23:53 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:34 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-07 22:48 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-08 06:35 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-09 15:37 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-05-09 22:53 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-10 01:05 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 16:09 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-02 19:31 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-02 19:50 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:07 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 09:08 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 11:40 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-24 17:31 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 20:57 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-25 10:04 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-25 08:59 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 11:52 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerald E¡scher <Spamer@fahr-zur-Hoelle.org> - 2024-04-25 14:47 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-25 18:59 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-26 15:38 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 07:13 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerald E¡scher <Spamer@fahr-zur-Hoelle.org> - 2024-04-26 13:04 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 19:45 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-27 10:42 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 13:18 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:25 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 14:40 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 19:01 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 20:18 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-03 22:46 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 02:02 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-28 01:40 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-29 06:26 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-29 16:11 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-30 11:32 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-30 11:13 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:33 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-04-30 16:30 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-04-30 16:46 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 19:16 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 13:07 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 16:03 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 18:10 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-05-06 21:53 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:08 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2024-05-07 06:59 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 08:28 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 16:10 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:15 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2024-05-08 08:42 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2024-05-07 16:51 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 17:42 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2024-04-30 15:10 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-04-30 19:08 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-01 08:15 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:49 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:46 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:34 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-30 18:34 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:50 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-24 16:59 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-04-28 19:35 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-28 20:24 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-04-28 23:26 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:43 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-05-02 20:07 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-02 20:48 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-05-03 23:15 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 10:00 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 11:33 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 15:14 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-29 13:21 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-04-30 07:33 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-04-30 17:55 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:54 +0000
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-04-30 22:57 +0200
Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 15:32 +0200
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