Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > de.alt.folklore.computer > #44440

Re: Triumph of the Nerds

From poc@pocnet.net
Newsgroups de.alt.folklore.computer
Subject Re: Triumph of the Nerds
Date 2024-05-01 11:40 +0000
Message-ID <l9eo1fF9q93U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <v0ah2r$qv9$1@news.szaf.org> <v0ajup$c8ha$1@solani.org> <l8t9psFl9l6U1@mid.individual.net> <v0qkur$72ne$2@solani.org> <v0rae0$2jgt3$1@dont-email.me>

Show all headers | View raw


Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

>> Der AS/400-Markt ging stark zurück. Obwohl man sie zuletzt als Server
>> nutzen konnte und Linux drauf lief. Es galt der Billigheimer mit
>> Klickibunti.
> 
> Linux auf AS/400?

Nein, das nicht. Dank der Geheimniskrämerei in Rochester ist es schwierig bis
unmöglich, Linux auf die ältere Hardware zu portieren. (Was aus meiner Sicht
auch irgendwie sinnfrei ist: Linux läuft auf jedem popeligen Wintel-Blech,
warum dafür die für OS/400 spezialisierte Hardware ver(sch)wenden?)

Dummerweise ist "AS/400" an dieser Stelle ein ziemlich generischer Term für
die gesamte Plattformreihe geworden, weswegen sich solche Mißverständnisse
recht einfach ergeben können.

> AS/400 läuft ja schon lange auf POWER

Du meinst OS/400. :-)

> was wegen TIMI anscheinend keine (großen?) Umzugsschwierigkeiten gab.
> Mittlerweile sind das ja Power-Maschinen, auf denen halt IBM i läuft.

"Kommt drauf an". Die Umstellung von proprietären CISC-CPUs auf PowerPC in den
1990ern ging tatsächlich ohne mir bekannte Schwierigkeiten von sich.

Dann kam Leif Svalgaard und hat ein "Buch" geschrieben, "AS/400 Machine-Level
Programming", mit einigen *sehr* interessanten Ausführungen zu (lokalen)
Sicherheitslücken bis hin zu OS/400 V4. Findet sich im Netz als PDF.

IBM musste daraufhin (mit jedem Release ein bisschen, damit nicht alle
existierende Software von jetzt auf Nachher auf die Bretter geht) unter der
Haube so einiges umbauen, was das Thema Umzug ohne Quellcode an einige
Bedingungen knüpfte. Stichwort "observability" des Codes im resultierenden
Programmobjekt. Wenn das fehlte, musste man neu kompilieren. Meistens fehlte
es, wegen "Schutz des geistigen Eigentums", aka, wir lassen uns nicht in den
Quellcode schauen. "Wir" waren die Firmen, die Software für die Plattform
entwickelt haben.

> Auf den gleichen(?) Power-Maschinen läuft natürlich auch Linux und AIX
> (ausgesprochen "aches") aber zu sagen, Linux würde auf AS/400 laufen, ist
> schon ein bisschen weit hergeholt.

Genau. Siehe oben.

-- 

:wq! PoC

Back to de.alt.folklore.computer | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-06 09:37 +0200
  Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Pachta <mipani@gmx.de> - 2024-04-06 10:06 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-06 11:37 +0200
  Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-06 11:14 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-06 11:39 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-08 12:27 +0200
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-08 13:33 +0200
  Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-17 17:33 +0000
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2024-04-18 08:46 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-04-18 19:41 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-19 18:44 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-20 22:34 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-21 17:18 +0200
  Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 07:41 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 08:49 +0000
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 11:38 +0200
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-04-24 16:28 +0200
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-24 18:55 +0000
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 20:53 +0000
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-30 13:33 +0200
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:11 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 18:49 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-02 21:14 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-02 21:16 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 07:46 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-03 20:21 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:03 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-04 07:14 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-05-04 09:37 +0200
                C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 11:23 +0200
                Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 13:17 +0200
                Re: C Michael Kraemer <m.kraemer@gsi.de> - 2024-05-04 14:47 +0200
                Re: C Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:43 +0200
                Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:41 +0200
                Re: C "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 02:08 +0200
                Re: C Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:41 +0200
                Re: C Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2024-05-05 16:02 +0000
                Re: C Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2024-05-05 23:47 +0000
                Re: C "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:55 +0200
                Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:50 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:26 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-04 10:01 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 12:19 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:47 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 13:20 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-04 09:09 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:23 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-05 10:16 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:18 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 18:41 +0200
                Pascal (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:55 +0200
                Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 06:40 +0200
                Re: Pascal "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-07 07:48 +0200
                Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 08:26 +0200
                Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 13:04 +0200
                Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 14:57 +0200
                Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 13:11 +0000
                Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 13:55 +0000
                Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 21:33 +0200
                Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 07:42 +0000
                Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:09 +0200
                Re: Pascal Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 12:37 +0200
                Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:42 +0200
                Re: Pascal Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2024-05-12 11:36 +0200
                Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-12 13:42 +0000
                Re: Pascal Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2024-05-12 19:19 +0200
                Re: Pascal Andreas Karrer <ak-4a@gmx.ch> - 2024-05-12 21:39 +0000
                Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 16:09 +0200
                Re: Pascal Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 17:49 +0200
                Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 20:56 +0200
                Re: Pascal Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-12 19:46 +0000
                Re: Pascal Peter Müller <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 22:00 +0200
                Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:16 +0200
                Re: Pascal "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:20 +0200
                Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 21:13 +0200
                Re: Pascal Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-13 10:39 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 09:20 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:03 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-08 04:13 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 12:01 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-13 01:54 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-13 10:51 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-13 13:45 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-13 14:04 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-13 17:23 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 11:22 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 15:57 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 18:30 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 21:54 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 13:04 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 11:45 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 20:53 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 08:42 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 21:56 +0000
                Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 21:06 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen (was: Triumph of the Nerds) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 07:31 +0000
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 10:12 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 13:03 +0000
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 16:03 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 16:57 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 17:36 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 18:52 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 03:49 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 19:22 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 04:07 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 17:00 +0000
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 20:25 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 20:55 +0000
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-09 23:53 +0200
                Re: Accidental Complexity von Programmiersprachen Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-10 04:26 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:53 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 20:09 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 12:50 +0200
                Yoda expressions (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:39 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 14:16 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 19:04 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:28 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-05 18:33 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 13:09 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:01 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-08 20:01 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 20:15 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:18 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:36 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 16:37 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:51 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2024-05-06 07:41 +0000
                C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:13 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 09:58 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:34 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-06 14:00 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-05 19:57 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 12:06 +0000
                C (was: Triumph of the Nerds) "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-06 19:29 +0200
                Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 06:49 +0200
                Re: C Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:30 +0000
                Re: C Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 09:42 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-06 18:55 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:03 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:32 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 09:44 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 08:26 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-07 18:13 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-05-07 21:50 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 21:49 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:16 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:10 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-08 08:40 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 14:19 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-08 15:14 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 18:16 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-08 17:30 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 12:20 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 12:19 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 17:52 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:43 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-09 16:48 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:40 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-09 14:26 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-09 16:38 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2024-05-12 21:09 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-02 19:46 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 18:44 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:09 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 12:58 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-06 15:07 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:06 +0000
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-30 17:40 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-01 07:17 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-01 09:10 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:40 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-01 12:18 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 20:44 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-02 07:31 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 05:54 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-03 09:25 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 08:35 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-03 11:20 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:13 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-03 21:14 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-06 07:48 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-03 22:12 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-05-06 07:49 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-06 23:53 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-07 06:34 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-07 22:48 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-05-08 06:35 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-09 15:37 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-05-09 22:53 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2024-05-10 01:05 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 16:09 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-02 19:31 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-02 19:50 +0200
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:07 +0000
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 09:08 +0000
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2024-04-24 11:40 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-24 17:31 +0200
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-24 20:57 +0000
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-25 10:04 +0200
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-25 08:59 +0000
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 11:52 +0000
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerald E¡scher <Spamer@fahr-zur-Hoelle.org> - 2024-04-25 14:47 +0000
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-25 18:59 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-26 15:38 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-07 07:13 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerald E¡scher <Spamer@fahr-zur-Hoelle.org> - 2024-04-26 13:04 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 19:45 +0200
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-27 10:42 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 13:18 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:25 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 14:40 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 19:01 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 20:18 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-03 22:46 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Dennis Grevenstein <dennis.grevenstein@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 02:02 +0000
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-04-28 01:40 +0200
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-29 06:26 +0200
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-29 16:11 +0000
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-30 11:32 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-04-30 11:13 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:33 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-04-30 16:30 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-04-30 16:46 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-05-02 19:16 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 13:07 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 16:03 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2024-05-06 18:10 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Klix <wotokl@web.de> - 2024-05-06 21:53 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-06 21:08 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2024-05-07 06:59 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 08:28 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 16:10 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-07 22:15 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2024-05-08 08:42 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2024-05-07 16:51 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 17:42 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2024-04-30 15:10 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-04-30 19:08 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-01 08:15 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:49 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:46 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:34 +0000
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-04-30 18:34 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds poc@pocnet.net - 2024-05-01 11:50 +0000
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-04-24 16:59 +0200
    Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-04-28 19:35 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-04-28 20:24 +0000
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-04-28 23:26 +0200
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:43 +0000
            Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-05-02 20:07 +0200
              Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-02 20:48 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Chr. Maercker" <Zweistein@gmx-topmail.de> - 2024-05-03 23:15 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-05-04 10:00 +0200
                Re: Triumph of the Nerds "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-05-04 11:33 +0200
          Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 15:14 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-04-29 13:21 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-04-30 07:33 +0200
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-04-30 17:55 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Sebastian Barthel <naitsabes@freenet.de> - 2024-04-30 13:54 +0000
        Re: Triumph of the Nerds Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-04-30 22:57 +0200
      Re: Triumph of the Nerds Kay Martinen <usenet@martinen.de> - 2024-05-15 15:32 +0200

csiph-web