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Re: Then you win.

From Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de>
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Subject Re: Then you win.
Date 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:48:18 +0000 (UTC), Matthias Eißing wrote:

>Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> wrote:
>
>> Oder kann man das irgendwie einfach lösen? Sicher nicht ..
>
>EURO Klassen für den Schadstoffausstoß. Der ist.... tata... Europaweit.

OK, das klingt dann doch einfach.

>Was also, wenn jemand aus den USA, aus der Türkei, aus den Emiraten mit
>seinem Auto kommt?

Wer nicht aus der EU kommt, darf ja benachteiligt werden. Es sollte
also juristisch kein Problem sein, da grundsätzlich den Maximalbertrag
zu fordern. Außer Bürokratie, TÜV, etc. bestätigt eine günstigere
Klasse.

Juristisch sollte das Problem sein. Ich behaupte ausdrücklich nicht,
daß es sonderlich geschickt wäre ...

>Eben. Das ist der Grund, warum ich die Maut ablehne: Bürokratiemonster ohne
>Nutzen. Hier wird nur einer glücklich: Der Stammtischbruder in Bayern. 

Da wird nicht nur ein Stammtischbruder glücklich, sondern einige.
Und nicht zu vergessen: Der Betreiber. Der wird sicher gewinnen.
(Das muß ja europaweit ausgeschrieben werden. Stellt euch mal vor, das
gewinnt ausgerechnet eine österreichische Firma ...)

Auf Wiederlesen

Michael

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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
      Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
              Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
  Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
            Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
            Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
        Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
      Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100

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