Re: C Names and Scopes

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: C Names and Scopes
Date	2017-02-10 01:49 +0000
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BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> On 10/02/2017 00:42, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 09/02/2017 20:25, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>>>>> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... What exactly do you have to do to make it report an
>>>>>> error, rather than a warning?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Werror
>>>>
>>>> Or -pedantic-errors.
>>>>
>>>> -Werror turns all warnings into fatal errors, which is great if you want
>>>> to reject everything that gcc warns about, but it can be overkill.
>>>
>>> OK, that's forcing gcc to report an error. But neither is quite what I
>>> meant, which is how wrong does a program have to be before gcc will
>>> say 'error:' without needing to be coerced into doing so with options.
>>
>> Why do you care?  You know how to get what you asked for so this just
>> looks like another excuse to moan about gcc.
>
> I'm not partisan.

Your complaint, phrased slightly sarcastically, was explicitly about gcc
both times.

<snip>
> And to repeat: -Werror is not the answer. I want actual hard errors
> (including syntax errors) to be reported as errors.

OK, but that's not what you asked for.  The first request was for a way
to "make it [gcc] report an error, rather than a warning".  The second
sounds rhetorical which is why I didn't answer it: "how wrong does a
program have to be before gcc will say 'error:' without needing to be
coerced into doing so with options".  How could anyone possibly answer
that question?

So, you want something you call "hard errors" to be reported as errors
while

> I don't want a whole bunch of harmless warnings to be turned into errors,

an unspecified set of "harmless warnings" must remain harmless
warnings.  Currently the best answer is

 -pedantic-errors

Does that not do what you want?

I can't evaluate it because, while it should report all syntax errors,
I'm not sure what else you consider "hard" or whether you consider
something "harmless" that it will turn into an error.

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 02:13 +0000
  Re: C Names and Scopes David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 10:09 +0100
    Re: C Names and Scopes mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-02-08 02:37 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 11:07 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:03 -0800
          Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 17:19 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:42 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 12:08 +0100
    Re: C Names and Scopes Moai <penultimategrill@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 19:16 -0500
      Re: C Names and Scopes David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-09 01:32 +0100
      Re: C Names and Scopes Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-09 08:18 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-02-09 12:06 -0500
  Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 10:51 +0000
  Re: C Names and Scopes Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 03:11 -0800
    Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 11:39 +0000
      Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 12:06 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 13:31 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 13:40 +0000
          Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 16:39 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 17:51 +0000
              Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 20:56 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 22:08 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 23:27 +0000
      Re: C Names and Scopes David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 13:41 +0100
      Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 14:32 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 07:28 -0800
          Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 20:12 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-08 12:38 -0800
              Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 21:54 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 22:40 +0000
  Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-09 18:48 +0000
    Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-09 19:53 +0000
      Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-09 12:25 -0800
        Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-09 21:27 +0000
          Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-09 13:57 -0800
            Re: C Names and Scopes David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-13 10:54 +0100
        Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-10 00:26 +0000
          Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 00:42 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-10 01:03 +0000
              Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 01:49 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-10 12:31 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 23:48 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-10 16:06 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-10 16:22 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-12 09:17 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-15 16:26 -0800
              Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-09 17:56 -0800
              Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-10 07:42 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-10 08:44 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-10 09:25 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-02-10 16:43 -0500
                Re: C Names and Scopes supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-10 14:04 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-10 22:52 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 15:10 -0800
        Re: C Names and Scopes Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-15 16:31 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-09 23:09 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-09 23:36 +0000
          Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-10 00:19 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 00:38 +0000
  Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-04 01:23 +0000
    Re: C Names and Scopes jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-03 18:23 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 14:42 +0100
        Re: C Names and Scopes "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-03-04 11:02 -0500
          Re: C Names and Scopes GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 23:35 +0100
            Re: C Names and Scopes Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-03-04 14:50 -0800
            Re: C Names and Scopes Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-05 13:39 +0000
              Re: C Names and Scopes GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 15:10 +0100
                Re: C Names and Scopes Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-05 14:34 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-05 19:25 -0800
              Re: C Names and Scopes raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-03-06 09:37 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-03-06 10:34 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-03-06 07:23 -0500
                Re: C Names and Scopes GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 14:26 +0100
    Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-04 11:52 -0800
      Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-04 20:13 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-04 20:17 +0000
        Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-04 12:38 -0800
        Re: C Names and Scopes jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-04 13:50 -0800
          Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-04 22:37 +0000
            Re: C Names and Scopes jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-04 16:15 -0800
              Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-05 00:31 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-04 16:47 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-05 01:42 +0000
                Re: C Names and Scopes jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-04 19:20 -0800
                Re: C Names and Scopes Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-05 01:40 -0800

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