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The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change

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First post2018-05-06 05:42 -0400
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  The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-06 05:42 -0400
    Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-06 09:06 -0400
    Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 09:15 -0500
      Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-07 06:03 +1000
        Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 15:25 -0500
          Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:28 -0700
          Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-07 10:04 +1000
            Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 00:02 -0400
              Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-07 14:41 +1000
                Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 01:01 -0500
                Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:01 -0400
                Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 11:13 -0400
            Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:21 -0500

#683965 — The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change

Fromkensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
Date2018-05-06 05:42 -0400
SubjectThe Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change
Message-ID<pcmimd$1s2d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to 
climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from 
the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#683971

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-06 09:06 -0400
Message-ID<c5DHC.82904$6C5.61719@fx07.iad>
In reply to#683965
On 5/6/2018 5:42 AM, kensi wrote:
> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to 
> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from 
> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
> 
> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/ 
> 
> 
One more sold-out government official not afraid to lie about climate 
change to insure career advancement. Sad.

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#683975

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-06 09:15 -0500
Message-ID<pcn2mg$li7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#683965
On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from
> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
> 
> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
> 
> 

yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
can make money off it.

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#684007

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-07 06:03 +1000
Message-ID<fl95cnFd12eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683975
On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from
>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>
>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>
>>
> 
> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,

**Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA. 
With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to increase.


  computer predicted by some
> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,

**Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard 
your lies.


  has
> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
> can make money off it.
>

**How about you supply real data?



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#684011

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-06 15:25 -0500
Message-ID<pcnoc1$1pjq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#684007
On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from
>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>
>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
> 
> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to increase.
> 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!

the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
level !!!

> 
>  computer predicted by some
>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
> 
> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
> your lies.
> 
> 
>  has
>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>> can make money off it.
>>
> 
> **How about you supply real data?

no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.

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#684012

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-06 13:28 -0700
Message-ID<b8ke24.pq7.19.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#684011
On 2018-05-06 1:25 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from
>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>
>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>
>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to increase.
>>
> 
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
> 
> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
> level !!!
> 
>>
>>   computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>
>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>> your lies.
>>
>>
>>   has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it.
>>>
>>
>> **How about you supply real data?
> 
> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
> 
where is all the snow from the tops of the rockies going

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#684038

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-07 10:04 +1000
Message-ID<fl9jhdFfu7nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684011
On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away from
>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>
>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>
>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to increase.
>>
> 
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
> 
> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
> level !!!

**Here is YOUR claim:

"yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
can make money off it."


Do you now admit your lie?

> 
>>
>>   computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>
>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>> your lies.
>>
>>
>>   has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it.
>>>
>>
>> **How about you supply real data?
> 
> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
> 

**How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? Here, 
again, are your lies:

"yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
can make money off it."

Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for all. 
Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#684066

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-07 00:02 -0400
Message-ID<8dQHC.119962$mS3.101025@fx04.iad>
In reply to#684038
On 5/6/2018 8:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away 
>>>>> from
>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>
>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to 
>>> increase.
>>>
>>
>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>
>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>> level !!!
> 
> **Here is YOUR claim:
> 
> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
> can make money off it."
> 
> 
> Do you now admit your lie?
> 
>>
>>>
>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>
>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>> your lies.
>>>
>>>
>>>   has
>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how 
>>>> they
>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>
>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>
> 
> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? Here, 
> again, are your lies:
> 
> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
> can make money off it."
> 
> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for all. 
> Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
> 
> 
Actually BOTH Sergio and Trevor need spanked. The .1mm/year figure is 
just wrong. The correct MEASURED figure is about 2mm a year. Sea rises 
as high as 3mm or so have been measured but as usual Trevor is seep in 
lies trying to call it greenland runoff. The 3mm figures are from GROUND 
WATER PUMPING (namely land SINKING not sea rising) Trevor is big into 
fake news.

PS. The 2mm figure is due to ending glaciation period and has been at 
this level LONG before industrial revolution and SUVs. It's all a fake 
scam trying to bamboozle the ignornate public who thinks that glaciers 
melting and sea level rises are some new recent thing. ALl FAke. ALl 
lies. After the end of the glaciation seas rode 400 FEET! Oh my! Are you 
all scared yet? Oh Trevor! What oh what can we do? And the tail of thar 
rise is still going one.

Trevor why don't you just give up on the warming scam and make some 
money with Nigerian prince emails?

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#684067

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-05-07 14:41 +1000
Message-ID<fla3oqFj2j6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684066
On 7/05/2018 2:02 PM, benj wrote:
> On 5/6/2018 8:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>>
>>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to 
>>>> increase.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>>
>>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>>> level !!!
>>
>> **Here is YOUR claim:
>>
>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>> can make money off it."
>>
>>
>> Do you now admit your lie?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>>
>>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>>> your lies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   has
>>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how 
>>>>> they
>>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>>
>>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>>
>>
>> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? 
>> Here, again, are your lies:
>>
>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>> can make money off it."
>>
>> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for all. 
>> Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
>>
>>
> Actually BOTH Sergio and Trevor need spanked. The .1mm/year figure is 
> just wrong. The correct MEASURED figure is about 2mm a year.

**So, according to your un-referenced claim, Sergio is out by 2000%, 
while I am out by around 30%.

Let's call a spade a bloody shovel. Sergio lied. Big time. You and I are 
just arguing about your un-referenced claim and my un-referenced claim.

Let's deal with that right now:

https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14/



  Sea rises
> as high as 3mm or so have been measured but as usual Trevor is seep in 
> lies trying to call it greenland runoff. The 3mm figures are from GROUND 
> WATER PUMPING (namely land SINKING not sea rising) Trevor is big into 
> fake news.

**Sea levels are measured all over the planet. The AVERAGE is somewhere 
around 3mm/year. WAY more than Sergio's lie of 0.1mm/year and a little 
more than your un-referenced claim.


> 
> PS. The 2mm figure is due to ending glaciation period and has been at 
> this level LONG before industrial revolution and SUVs.

**Well, not quite. The accepted figure is now somewhere around 3mm/year.


  It's all a fake
> scam trying to bamboozle the ignornate public who thinks that glaciers 
> melting and sea level rises are some new recent thing.

**Well, most glaciers are melting. Where do you think all that melt 
water ends up? Take your time and think about your answer.


  ALl FAke. ALl
> lies.

**Really? Where does the melt water end up?


  After the end of the glaciation seas rode 400 FEET! Oh my! Are you
> all scared yet? Oh Trevor! What oh what can we do? And the tail of thar 
> rise is still going one.

Sea levels have been relatively steady for several thousand years. Now, 
those levels are increasing at a faster rate. Does that worry you?


> 
> Trevor why don't you just give up on the warming scam and make some 
> money with Nigerian prince emails?


**What "warming scam"?

The planet is warming and it is due to human influence. No climatologist 
on the planet disputes that. Why do you?


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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#684075

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-07 01:01 -0500
Message-ID<pcoq37$15dq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#684067
On 5/6/2018 11:41 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 2:02 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 5/6/2018 8:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished
>>>>>>> references to
>>>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy
>>>>>>> away from
>>>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>>>
>>>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm
>>>>> PA.
>>>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to
>>>>> increase.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>>>
>>>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>>>> level !!!
>>>
>>> **Here is YOUR claim:
>>>
>>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it."
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you now admit your lie?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>>>
>>>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>>>> your lies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   has
>>>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on
>>>>>> how they
>>>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>>>
>>>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them?
>>> Here, again, are your lies:
>>>
>>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it."
>>>
>>> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for
>>> all. Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
>>>
>>>
>> Actually BOTH Sergio and Trevor need spanked. The .1mm/year figure is
>> just wrong. The correct MEASURED figure is about 2mm a year.
> 
> **So, according to your un-referenced claim, Sergio is out by 2000%,
> while I am out by around 30%.
> 
> Let's call a spade a bloody shovel. Sergio lied. Big time. 

prove it, kookie,  got url ?

it will need an error analysis along with it to show it can accuractly
measure 0.1mm, including orbital pertabation, sun effect on atmosphere,
temperature at time of measurement, etc.

did you know the sea rises both toward the  moon and toward the sun over
one to three feet, (and on opposite side as well)? and with that water
displaced it took water away from 90 degree points from sun and moon,
how many feet is that ?

are these two entire earth effects taken into the error analysis with
your above URL you might supply ?

or are you going to punt ?

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/kits/tides/tides02_cause.html


<snip>

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#684086

Fromkensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
Date2018-05-07 06:01 -0400
Message-ID<pcp85l$1sbf$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#684067
On 5/7/2018 12:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 2:02 PM, benj wrote:
>> Trevor why don't you just give up on the warming scam and make some 
>> money with Nigerian prince emails?
> 
> **What "warming scam"?
> 
> The planet is warming and it is due to human influence. No climatologist 
> on the planet disputes that. Why do you?

$hell. E$$on-M$bil. $hevron. Etc...

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#684107

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-07 11:13 -0400
Message-ID<k2_HC.57085$mD.24527@fx31.iad>
In reply to#684067
On 5/7/2018 12:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 2:02 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 5/6/2018 8:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished 
>>>>>>> references to
>>>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy 
>>>>>>> away from
>>>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>>>
>>>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm 
>>>>> PA.
>>>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to 
>>>>> increase.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>>>
>>>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>>>> level !!!
>>>
>>> **Here is YOUR claim:
>>>
>>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it."
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you now admit your lie?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>>>
>>>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>>>> your lies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   has
>>>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on 
>>>>>> how they
>>>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>>>
>>>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? 
>>> Here, again, are your lies:
>>>
>>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>>> can make money off it."
>>>
>>> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for 
>>> all. Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
>>>
>>>
>> Actually BOTH Sergio and Trevor need spanked. The .1mm/year figure is 
>> just wrong. The correct MEASURED figure is about 2mm a year.
> 
> **So, according to your un-referenced claim, Sergio is out by 2000%, 
> while I am out by around 30%.
> 
> Let's call a spade a bloody shovel. Sergio lied. Big time. You and I are 
> just arguing about your un-referenced claim and my un-referenced claim.

And the way you know he lied was? Oh that's right like all your science 
you just made it up. A lie is if Sergio KNEW the figure were wrong. 
Otherwise it's just a mistake. In your case I'm SURE you know your 
figures are wrong. That makes it a lie.

> Let's deal with that right now:
> 
> https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14/ 

Cripes this propaganda figure is hard to read, but they claim 3mm as you 
do. But that's a bunch of Brit science fraudsters. Might as well quote 
the BBC as some kind of proof!

So I'll see your BBC and raise you a Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise#/media/File:Trends_in_global_average_absolute_sea_level,_1880-2013.png

As you can see there is 5.5 inches of rise from 1880 to 1980 which 
(allow me to do the science for you) is about 1.4 mm a year. Wow, that's 
well under the 2mm I asserted without reference. Note the tidal gauge 
"hockey stick" at the end which is doubtless due to science fudging of 
data by you warmballers. The satellite data puts the lie to it.

So my assertion of 2mm/yr appears to be a nice average of your 3mm claim 
and the truth of 1mm. So reality is I was actually giving you warmists 
some benefit of the doubt here. Note that sea level is quite difficult 
to measure accurately.


>   Sea rises
>> as high as 3mm or so have been measured but as usual Trevor is seep in 
>> lies trying to call it greenland runoff. The 3mm figures are from 
>> GROUND WATER PUMPING (namely land SINKING not sea rising) Trevor is 
>> big into fake news.
> 
> **Sea levels are measured all over the planet. The AVERAGE is somewhere 
> around 3mm/year. WAY more than Sergio's lie of 0.1mm/year and a little 
> more than your un-referenced claim.

Sea level is measured all over the planet. As I said it's a difficult 
measurement. Your assertion of 3mm is simply lies and fantasy however as 
I showed above.

>>
>> PS. The 2mm figure is due to ending glaciation period and has been at 
>> this level LONG before industrial revolution and SUVs.
> 
> **Well, not quite. The accepted figure is now somewhere around 3mm/year.

Accepted by all you fraudsters? Got that energy tax through the Trump 
administration (called Trump regime by you warmists) Yet?

(snicker)

>   It's all a fake
>> scam trying to bamboozle the ignornate public who thinks that glaciers 
>> melting and sea level rises are some new recent thing.
> 
> **Well, most glaciers are melting. Where do you think all that melt 
> water ends up? Take your time and think about your answer.

Which is why sea levels are rising, Duh! So you think glaciers just 
started melting and receding yesterday? Do you understand just how 
ignorant and dishonest that is? Where do you think the post-glaciation 
400 foot sea rise came from? Duh? Probably from that mile of ice that 
"climate change" deposited over top of my house...

>   ALl FAke. ALl
>> lies.
> 
> **Really? Where does the melt water end up?

Where does the 2mm rise each year come from? Didn't you warmballers get 
the memo that the ICE age had turned around long before SUVs were invented?

>   After the end of the glaciation seas rode 400 FEET! Oh my! Are you
>> all scared yet? Oh Trevor! What oh what can we do? And the tail of 
>> thar rise is still going one.
> 
> Sea levels have been relatively steady for several thousand years. Now, 
> those levels are increasing at a faster rate. Does that worry you?

Absolute lie. See my reference and especially the satellite measurements 
which have not been "adjusted" by you fraudsters and are not susceptible 
to ground water pumping which you all pretend is a sea level rise. You 
guys think you are so clever you can fool everybody. You can't.

>> Trevor why don't you just give up on the warming scam and make some 
>> money with Nigerian prince emails?
> 
> 
> **What "warming scam"?

(Feigned innocence and ignorance)

> The planet is warming and it is due to human influence. No climatologist 
> on the planet disputes that. Why do you?

You libs never do Quantity, do you? "If just one child is saved" it 
never matters if millions die" That really is evil, you know.

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#684068

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-07 00:21 -0500
Message-ID<pconou$12fd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#684038
On 5/6/2018 7:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away
>>>>> from
>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>
>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to
>>> increase.
>>>
>>
>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>
>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>> level !!!
> 
> **Here is YOUR claim:
> 
> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
> can make money off it."
> 
> 
> Do you now admit your lie?
> 
>>
>>>
>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>
>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>> your lies.
>>>
>>>
>>>   has
>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how
>>>> they
>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>
>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>
> 
> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? Here,
> again, are your lies:
> 
> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
> can make money off it."
> 
> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for all.
> Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
> 

the article is a lie.       the article... is... a  lie.

  The Article is  a => *total Lie*.


weather is not glowball Worming,

    weather is not "climate change"

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