Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change

From	Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject	Re: The Head of the U.S. Coast Guard Isn't Afraid to Talk About Climate Change
Date	2018-05-07 14:41 +1000
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On 7/05/2018 2:02 PM, benj wrote:
> On 5/6/2018 8:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 7/05/2018 6:25 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2018 3:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 7/05/2018 12:15 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2018 4:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>> Even as other government agencies have quietly banished references to
>>>>>> climate change, the head of the U.S. Coast Guard does not shy away 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the subject that the White House has made practically taboo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/04/the-head-of-the-u-s-coast-guard-isnt-afraid-to-talk-about-climate-change/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise,
>>>>
>>>> **Try an OBSERVED (not predicted, nor modelled) rate of 2.8 ~ 3.6mm PA.
>>>> With the increased melt from Greenland, that rate is expected to 
>>>> increase.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh  MMMYY  !!
>>>
>>> the Coastguard ships cannot withstand 1/10 of an inch of rise in water
>>> level !!!
>>
>> **Here is YOUR claim:
>>
>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>> can make money off it."
>>
>>
>> Do you now admit your lie?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   computer predicted by some
>>>>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data,
>>>>
>>>> **Well, given your data is hopelessly wrong, we can safely disregard
>>>> your lies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   has
>>>>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how 
>>>>> they
>>>>> can make money off it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **How about you supply real data?
>>>
>>> no need, the article is FAKE NEWS on its face.
>>>
>>
>> **How about your lies? When will you take responsibility for them? 
>> Here, again, are your lies:
>>
>> "yep, by golly, that 0.1 mm/year sea rise, computer predicted by some
>> aggressive global worming computer modeling problems on closed data, has
>> worried the shit out of some unemployed contract journalists on how they
>> can make money off it."
>>
>> Here's your chance to admit your lies and apologise, once and for all. 
>> Do it now, or will you dig yourself an even deeper hole?
>>
>>
> Actually BOTH Sergio and Trevor need spanked. The .1mm/year figure is 
> just wrong. The correct MEASURED figure is about 2mm a year.

**So, according to your un-referenced claim, Sergio is out by 2000%, 
while I am out by around 30%.

Let's call a spade a bloody shovel. Sergio lied. Big time. You and I are 
just arguing about your un-referenced claim and my un-referenced claim.

Let's deal with that right now:

https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14/



  Sea rises
> as high as 3mm or so have been measured but as usual Trevor is seep in 
> lies trying to call it greenland runoff. The 3mm figures are from GROUND 
> WATER PUMPING (namely land SINKING not sea rising) Trevor is big into 
> fake news.

**Sea levels are measured all over the planet. The AVERAGE is somewhere 
around 3mm/year. WAY more than Sergio's lie of 0.1mm/year and a little 
more than your un-referenced claim.


> 
> PS. The 2mm figure is due to ending glaciation period and has been at 
> this level LONG before industrial revolution and SUVs.

**Well, not quite. The accepted figure is now somewhere around 3mm/year.


  It's all a fake
> scam trying to bamboozle the ignornate public who thinks that glaciers 
> melting and sea level rises are some new recent thing.

**Well, most glaciers are melting. Where do you think all that melt 
water ends up? Take your time and think about your answer.


  ALl FAke. ALl
> lies.

**Really? Where does the melt water end up?


  After the end of the glaciation seas rode 400 FEET! Oh my! Are you
> all scared yet? Oh Trevor! What oh what can we do? And the tail of thar 
> rise is still going one.

Sea levels have been relatively steady for several thousand years. Now, 
those levels are increasing at a faster rate. Does that worry you?


> 
> Trevor why don't you just give up on the warming scam and make some 
> money with Nigerian prince emails?


**What "warming scam"?

The planet is warming and it is due to human influence. No climatologist 
on the planet disputes that. Why do you?


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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