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| From | ghisvail@gmail.com |
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| Subject | Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? |
| Date | Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:10:02 +0200 |
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On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 10:42 +0200, Steffen Möller wrote: > > > Let me ask you this: where is the rush to package this machine > > > learning > > > library? Could it wait after the Buster release cycle, where we > > > might > > > be in a more comfortable position to upgrade matplotlib? > > The short answer is yes. The almost as short one is "Conda has it > > already, use that". The slightly longer answer is that I don't > > think > > that this is the right thing for Debian to do. We are then shipping > > an > > old version of matplotlib, i.e. oldstable, with a new release of > > our > > distribution. I do also think that that long-term support version 2 > > of > > matplotlib should remain in our distribution. So we would need to > > find > > a way to support two versions for the same distribution. > > Kind of answering myself - I do not see a rush, either. I was just > positively surprised about Orange and would like many users to share > that experience with Buster - not two years later. Looking at their release history [1], the upstream release cadence is once a month. Assuming the freeze takes about three months to complete (quite optimisticly), will upstream be interested in feedback and bug reports from 3 releases ago? Maybe. What about a year later? That would be 15 releases ago. I am not too sure about it. They'll just ask you to use Anaconda [2], which is the very first entry in their installation instructions. Don't you think? [1] https://pypi.org/project/Orange3/#history [2] https://orange.biolab.si/download/ Cheers, Ghis
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Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de> - 2018-10-16 10:40 +0200
Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
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