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Re: Arm durch Arbeit

From Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
Newsgroups de.sci.electronics
Subject Re: Arm durch Arbeit
Date 2016-04-10 15:44 -0700
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On 2016-04-10 10:05, Gerrit Heitsch wrote:
> On 04/10/2016 06:49 PM, Joerg wrote:
>> Bush tat aehnliches, z.B. durch Schaffung von Health Savings Accounts,
>> mit denen auch Selbststaendige Arztkosten vorsteuerlich bezahlen
>> konnten. Dann kam Obama und es ging bergab, teilweise steil.
>
> Bush und die Republikaner kosteten die USA deutlich mehr als sie jemals
> gutmachen konnten. Die zwei Kriege in Afghanistan und Irak, der letzte
> vollkommen unnötig, waren nicht umsonst. Für den IS darf man sich auch
> bei Bush und Konsorten bedanken.
>

Ja, ja, Bush ist auch schuld, wenn in China ein Sack Reis umfaellt und 
jemanden dabei verletzt.

Mujaheddin gab es schon im 8.Jahrhundert, in der heutigen gewalttaetigen 
Form seit etwa 1830. Aber klar, das war natuerlich auch Bush schuld ...

>
>>>> Definitiv nein. Eher im Gegenteil. Wer z.B. seinen eigenen Arbeitsplatz
>>>> schafft und dabei High-Tech entwickelt, der erzeugt im Domino-Effekt
>>>> viel neue Arbeit fuer andere.
>>>
>>> Nein, wenn er die Automation vorantreibt vernichtet er Arbeitsplätze in
>>> der Gesamtbetrachtung.
>>>
>>
>> Das stimmt schlicht nicht.
>
> Doch, tut es, führ den Gedankengang mal bis zum Ende. Du kannst mehr
> automatisieren. Die dazu nötigen Maschinen werden nur gekauft wenn sie
> billiger sind als Arbeiter. Also müssen diese Maschinen Arbeitsplätze
> vernichten denn sonst wären sie teurer als Arbeiter.
>

<seufz>

Schonmal ueberlegt, warum heutige Familien zwei bis vier Autos haben und 
vor 200 Jahren maximal ein Paar abgewetzte Schuhe pro Person und 
manchmal nich einmal das? Ach so, und in der Zeit hat die Bevoelkerung 
auch noch heftig zugelegt.

Die Anzahl der Arbeitsplaetze, ob automatisierte oder nicht, in der KFZ 
Industrie lag 1816 ziemlich genau bei null.

Dito bei Fernsehern, Waschmaschinen, Telefonen, Computern, und so weiter.

>
>>> Stell dir mal vor das mit den autonomen Lastwagen funktioniert. Damit
>>> sind dann die ganzen LKW-Fahrer arbeitslos. Das sind garantiert mehr als
>>> die neu entstehenden Arbeitsplätze im Umfeld dieser autonomen LKW. Wäre
>>> es anders, wären autonome LKWs teurer und keiner würde sie kaufen. Also
>>> netto ein Verlust von Arbeitsplätzen.
>>>
>>
>> So, jetzt machen wir mal Butter bei die Fische. Das soll keine
>> Selbstbeweihraeucherung sein, nur ein klassisches Beispiel, wie es geht:
>>
>> Ende der 90er uebernahm ich die Leitung der Imaging Division einer
>> Medizintechnik Firma (Endosonics). Es ging der Firma zu der Zeit nicht
>> gut, fast jedes Quartal Verluste und IMO weit zuviel Handarbeit in der
>> Produktion. Also heuerte ich nach einigen anderen Umkrempelungen einen
>> Produktionsleiter plus einige weitere Fachkraefte aus der
>> Luftfahrtindustrie. Viele der fuehrenden Leute waren entsetzt "Aber die
>> haben doch keinerlei Medizintechnikerfahrung!". Gemeinsam
>> automatisierten wird die Produktion bis fast Oberkante Unterlippe. Das
>> lief nun wie bei der Fertigung von Passagiermaschinen. Anfangs waren die
>> Arbeiter sehr nervoes darueber. Ich hielt engen Kontakt zu ihnen und
>> sagte immer wieder, dass sie lediglich lernbereit sein muessen, was
>> Computer, Maschinen und dergleichen angeht. Im Gegenzug wuerden sie
>> danach mehr verdienen. Im Ergebnis produzierten wir wieder profitabel,
>> der Aktienkurs stieg, die Stueckzahl ging drastisch rauf, immer mehr
>> Krankenhaeuser benutzten unsere nun bezahlbare Technik (die senkt das
>> Komplikations- und Sterberisiko bei Cardio-Behandlungen) und die Zahl
>> der Jobs ging deutlich nach oben. Ach so, dann fuehrten wir noch eine
>> Beteiligung ueber Aktienoption fuer jeden Mitarbeiter ein, nicht nur
>> fuer Ingenieure und aufwaerts, wie das bei anderen Firmen ueblich ist.
>> Wer wollte, konnte darueber hinaus noch weitere Aktien zum Vorzugspreis
>> erwerben. Auch unterstuetzten wir es finanziell, wenn jemand ueber die
>> Erwachsenenbildung (Abendstudium) einen Ingenieurabschluss anstrebte.
>
> Und wieviele Leute haben dadurch ihren Arbeitsplatz verloren?


Keiner. Wie ich schrieb, sind viele Arbeitsplaetze entstanden.


>                                                                ... Die
> dürftest du nicht wahrgenommen haben weil sie für andere Firmen arbeiteten.
>

Die einzigen Jobs, die spaeter verloren gingen, waren als die Firma HP 
gegen uns nicht mehr ankam und das Handtuch schmiss. Das geschah aber 
weit danach und war schlicht das Resultat daraus, dass unsere Firma das 
bessere Produkt hatte und dadurch diesen Marktanteil und auch 
Arbeitsplaetze teilweise an Land zog. Es gab in dem Markt nur drei 
Anbieter, jetzt sind es zwei.

-- 
Gruesse, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-15 10:26 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 18:39 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2016-03-15 18:59 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 19:09 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-15 11:42 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2016-03-15 18:46 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-15 18:03 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-16 13:45 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Bernd Laengerich <Bernd.Laengerich@web.de> - 2016-03-16 14:07 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-16 08:15 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 10:56 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Michael Limburg <mlimb@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 20:39 +0000
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Matthias Weingart <mwnews@pentax.boerde.de> - 2016-03-14 22:48 +0000
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 17:24 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Matthias Weingart <mwnews@pentax.boerde.de> - 2016-03-15 09:24 +0000
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-15 18:07 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Matthias Weingart <mwnews@pentax.boerde.de> - 2016-03-15 20:41 +0000
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-15 21:49 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Matthias Weingart <mwnews@pentax.boerde.de> - 2016-03-15 20:53 +0000
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 21:57 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-15 22:00 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-15 10:22 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-16 01:02 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-16 08:11 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 10:58 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-15 11:39 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Bernd Laengerich <bernd.laengerich@web.de> - 2016-03-15 22:33 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-16 13:34 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-16 08:17 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-16 11:23 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-14 02:30 +0100
        Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Frank Wuest <schrottpresse@gmx.net> - 2016-03-03 11:29 +0000
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-03 08:25 -0800
            Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-04 08:49 +0100
              Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-04 07:50 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Andeas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> - 2016-03-04 19:09 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-04 10:25 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang <wolfgang@horejsi.de> - 2016-03-05 07:02 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-05 11:26 -0800
        Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Michael Schwingen <news-1454959088@discworld.dascon.de> - 2016-03-03 12:13 +0000
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-03 08:27 -0800
  Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2016-03-03 12:55 +0100
    Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-03 15:28 +0100
      Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-03 08:31 -0800
        Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Waldemar <waldemar@zedat.fu-berlin.de> - 2016-03-03 18:24 +0100
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-03 19:30 +0100
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-03 11:42 -0800
        Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-04 08:26 +0100
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-04 08:40 +0100
          Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-04 07:57 -0800
            Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-06 08:19 +0100
              Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-06 07:28 -0800
              Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Bernd Laengerich <bernd.laengerich@web.de> - 2016-03-06 17:40 +0100
            Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Andeas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 12:05 +0100
              Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-06 12:08 +0100
              Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-06 07:32 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Andeas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 18:43 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-06 09:54 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-06 19:06 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-06 19:19 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 19:50 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-06 21:27 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 07:21 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-07 17:22 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in all2001@spambog.com (Wolfgang Allinger) - 2016-03-07 16:22 -0300
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 12:21 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-07 17:50 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-07 18:26 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-09 20:25 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-09 20:52 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-10 06:47 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 12:34 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-07 22:59 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 15:03 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 00:10 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-08 05:58 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Peter Thoms <dl6lat@darc.de> - 2016-03-08 15:28 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-08 01:31 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-08 10:02 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-08 16:51 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-08 17:38 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Peter Thoms <dl6lat@darc.de> - 2016-03-09 12:49 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Peter Thoms <dl6lat@darc.de> - 2016-03-09 12:54 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-09 13:24 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-09 13:27 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 19:19 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-06 21:02 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 07:23 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-07 22:17 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-07 13:53 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-08 05:19 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-08 06:52 +0100
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-08 07:21 -0800
                Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-09 08:05 +0100
                OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-09 07:58 -0800
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-10 05:59 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2016-03-10 09:13 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-10 15:57 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-10 16:51 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-10 17:05 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-10 17:47 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-10 20:41 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-10 22:28 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged   in Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-11 18:31 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-11 09:21 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-11 14:58 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-12 13:50 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-13 07:05 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-13 10:29 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-13 16:07 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-14 11:14 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 17:06 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-15 10:56 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 11:18 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-14 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2016-03-13 16:57 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-13 17:23 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2016-03-13 22:48 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-14 09:21 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-18 11:30 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-13 17:25 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-14 11:24 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-18 11:21 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-13 15:05 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-14 09:22 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-14 10:46 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 07:20 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-03-14 22:32 +0800
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 09:26 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-14 09:05 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 07:12 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 17:01 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged   in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 09:28 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged     in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 17:34 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-14 17:38 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 17:48 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Lund-Nielsen, Jorgen" <jorgen.lund-nielsen@xyz123desy.de> - 2016-03-18 10:35 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-18 10:41 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-18 11:04 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-18 11:25 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-18 12:22 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-18 12:32 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-18 12:32 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-18 18:11 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-18 18:30 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-18 16:43 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-16 18:00 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-18 23:18 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-19 05:35 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-19 08:55 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-19 13:58 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-19 14:15 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 10:44 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-03-19 18:05 +0800
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-19 11:12 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 12:26 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2016-03-19 19:35 +0800
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 14:20 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-21 10:13 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-21 16:00 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-21 19:51 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-15 11:12 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-15 11:26 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-15 12:11 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-15 14:00 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-16 10:20 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged       in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 09:47 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged         in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 18:54 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged           in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 11:08 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-14 19:38 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 21:18 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 14:06 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-14 22:40 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 23:03 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 11:01 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-14 15:38 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 00:30 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang <wolfgang@horejsi.de> - 2016-03-15 08:10 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 08:23 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 10:39 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 11:39 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 12:11 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 13:31 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 13:44 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 14:41 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 15:35 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 13:36 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 14:55 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 16:21 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2016-03-15 17:25 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 18:08 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 18:26 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-16 00:57 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-16 17:44 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-16 18:18 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-17 08:02 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-27 23:43 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Thomas Franz <nope@usenet.org> - 2016-03-28 01:31 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-28 13:36 +0200
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2016-03-15 17:17 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 18:13 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2016-03-15 18:24 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2016-03-15 18:31 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 18:12 +0100
                Propagandaalarm! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 18:15 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-15 19:22 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-15 20:27 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2016-03-15 20:30 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-16 06:03 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2016-03-16 10:58 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-16 08:12 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-16 08:21 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-16 18:36 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-16 19:18 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-16 21:16 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-16 21:34 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-16 21:47 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-17 06:21 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-17 08:01 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hartmut Kraus <hartmut.melina@web.de> - 2016-03-17 16:08 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 09:01 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-17 10:34 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-17 12:14 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-17 12:42 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-17 14:19 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-17 14:31 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-17 19:28 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 10:20 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-19 11:02 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-19 11:24 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 14:10 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 07:30 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-04-16 13:29 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 07:25 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-19 11:25 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-19 16:52 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 11:03 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-27 14:27 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 15:13 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2016-03-27 16:00 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 16:14 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-27 23:40 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 13:07 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 13:01 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 15:02 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 16:07 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 18:52 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-18 08:01 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-18 09:08 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-18 19:31 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-18 20:18 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-19 10:27 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-19 18:01 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 07:44 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-04-13 19:06 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-04-16 13:32 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-18 20:45 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-19 10:29 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heiko Lechner <no.spam.to.me@arcor.de> - 2016-03-21 10:06 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-19 09:03 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2016-03-19 10:30 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-19 11:40 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-19 15:22 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-20 22:33 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-20 22:41 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-21 06:11 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Klaus Dahlwitz <kdahlwitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-21 19:48 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-22 12:31 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Thomas Franz <nope@usenet.org> - 2016-03-25 01:30 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 10:20 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 07:52 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-04-16 13:37 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-04-16 13:43 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-20 23:03 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-20 23:53 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-21 00:25 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-21 00:55 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:06 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-21 05:59 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:05 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-21 21:55 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-22 09:55 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-22 10:06 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-22 10:19 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-25 13:42 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "MaWin" <me@private.net> - 2016-03-21 00:40 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:09 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-21 21:47 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Ralph Aichinger <ra@pi.h5.or.at> - 2016-03-22 10:14 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-22 11:09 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 11:29 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Klaus Butzmann <k.butzmann.usenet@online.de> - 2016-03-22 23:18 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 23:40 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-23 05:54 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 10:48 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-23 05:57 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-22 11:22 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 08:06 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-30 20:56 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Wolfgang Schmidt <wolfgang.schmidt.mail@t-online.de> - 2016-04-13 07:49 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-17 16:59 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 18:55 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-18 12:23 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-18 19:33 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-03-19 09:42 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-17 17:09 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-17 19:40 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-18 09:07 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-18 09:22 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-18 19:38 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-18 09:25 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-21 22:00 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-22 08:24 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-30 21:24 +0200
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-22 09:37 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Thomas Franz <nope@usenet.org> - 2016-03-23 01:35 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Axel_Berger@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) - 2016-03-17 19:31 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-17 17:50 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-17 19:17 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-17 20:03 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Waldemar <waldemar@zedat.fu-berlin.de> - 2016-03-18 12:14 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-18 12:16 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-18 12:23 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-18 13:37 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-18 17:33 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-18 20:26 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Eric Brücklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2016-03-18 17:27 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-21 21:27 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2016-03-16 11:11 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Edzard Egberts <ed_09@tantec.de> - 2016-03-16 18:54 +0100
                Re: Propagandaalarm! Hartmut Kraus <hartmut.melina@web.de> - 2016-03-16 19:40 +0100
                Vorsicht! Korrupte Daten, manipulierte Messwerte! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 13:30 +0100
                Re: Vorsicht! Korrupte Daten, manipulierte Messwerte! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 13:39 +0100
                Re: Vorsicht! Korrupte Daten, manipulierte Messwerte! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 15:04 +0100
                Re: Vorsicht! Korrupte Daten, manipulierte Messwerte! Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-15 15:29 +0100
                Re: Vorsicht! Korrupte Daten, manipulierte Messwerte! Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 18:28 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-15 11:03 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-15 11:28 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 13:15 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-15 08:01 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged   in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 17:44 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged     in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-15 11:38 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-15 22:36 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-16 02:51 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-16 11:42 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-16 13:18 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-17 12:25 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-17 12:41 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-17 12:53 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-17 13:28 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-17 13:53 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-17 20:24 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-17 19:36 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-03-16 08:03 -0700
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged   in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-16 16:28 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-16 17:40 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 08:19 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-17 10:34 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-17 12:12 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-03-17 12:38 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Stefan <df9bi@arcor.de> - 2016-03-17 16:15 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Lutz Schulze <lschulze@netzwerkseite.de> - 2016-03-17 16:26 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Marc Santhoff <m.santhoff@t-online.de> - 2016-03-17 16:43 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Heinz Schmitz <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> - 2016-03-18 11:04 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-18 12:52 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-18 13:22 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in FrankReutter@gmx.de (Frank Reutter) - 2016-03-18 13:29 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-03-18 15:55 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2016-03-18 14:06 +0100
                Re: OT (Politik) Re: Semi-OT: PC won't start with USB-LPT plugged in "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-18 14:08 +0100

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