Re: EE or CS?

From	"BartC" <bc@freeuk.com>
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Subject	Re: EE or CS?
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Date	2013-01-09 12:51 +0000

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"Rui Maciel" <rui.maciel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> BartC wrote:
>
>> No-one would dispute that C has an awful lot of quirks.

> Claiming that, in your opinion, a specific programming language has some
> quirks, is worlds away from claiming that someone is a poor programmer
> because a programming language and a Turing Award-winning operating system
> he developed are "pretty terrible products".

I  never mentioned any individuals. The products are admirable achievements
of the time, but are dated and IMO have had too much influence in the
computing world.

> Even so, you will be hard-pressed to point out a single programming
> language
> whose core language, comparatively, has less quirks than C's.

I think the problem will be limiting to list to just one! But it all depends
on what is meant by a 'quirk'. Here's just one of C's: if you write 12 in
the language, it's the constant twelve as you might expect. But if you write
012, with a leading zero, it means ten! OK, one more: accidentally leave out
the closing "*/" of a comment, and see what happens. Likely, nothing, until
your application goes wrong in mysterious ways. There are dozens more...

>> I meant case-sensitive...
>>
>> The fact that you've had to ask, must mean it's even more of an issue
>> than
>> I thought!
>
> Don't try to put words in someone else's mouth.  The reason I had to ask
> was
> because your assertion regarding the "case-insensitive nature of the Unix"
> was obviously bullshit.

I already explained it was a mistake.

>  And it was bullshit two-fold: Unix is not "case-
> insensitive" in any way, and only those who are completely oblivious to
> what
> they are doing are annoyed by it.

And the problem, in case you haven't got it, is that you have to get the
case of a command or filename or option (or URL etc) *just right*,
otherwise the OS has absolutely no idea what you're on about. Or it might be
mistaken for something entirely different and unexpected.

-- 
Bartc

Thread

EE or CS? bob <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2013-01-08 09:28 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-01-08 10:41 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-01-08 21:41 +0100
    Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 20:50 +0000
      Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-01-08 22:25 +0100
        Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 21:35 +0000
          Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 22:51 +0000
            Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 23:23 +0000
              Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 23:31 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 12:58 +1300
                Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 01:35 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-09 02:13 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 11:28 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-09 12:51 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 23:52 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 12:04 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 14:28 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 21:58 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:25 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-01-09 05:35 -0800
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 22:43 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 12:22 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 14:20 -0600
    Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 22:15 -0600
  Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 10:19 +1300
  Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 22:54 +0000
  Re: EE or CS? Robert Miles <robertmilesxyz@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:26 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? Dan <dantex1@aol.com> - 2013-02-19 19:12 -0800
    Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-20 09:16 +0000
      Re: EE or CS? Dan <dantex1@aol.com> - 2013-02-20 18:59 -0800
        Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-21 16:40 +1300
          Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-02-21 11:45 +0100
          Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-21 11:45 +0000
        Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-21 07:36 +0000

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