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Re: EE or CS?

From "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.programming
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Subject Re: EE or CS?
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Organization virginmedia.com
Date 2013-01-10 21:58 +0000

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"BGB" <cr88192@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/10/2013 6:04 AM, BartC wrote:

>> Even so, why choose a designation that is generally regarded as a valid
>> decimal number in most other contexts?

> putting 0 in front of numbers naturally results in evilness though, so why
> do it?...

It *will* be evil if it changes the value of the number!

> most common I think is to pad and align numbers with spaces.

That's true, but the language shouldn't really dictate number style. Leading
zeros on decimals can be useful in a few situations, for the same sorts of
reasons that they are useful in binary and hex: to delimit the number of
digits more clearly, for example, or to highlight a pattern in the digits.
Whatever. Making it mean octal isn't so useful!

And the main point is, with octal being so rare, it can also cause
unexpected bugs.

> granted, yes, maybe "0o1234" or similar would be better.

Or perhaps 8x1234, otherwise, written as 0O1234, it can look confusing.

(For octal, I use either 1234x8, or 1234O, but that latter can also be
written 1234'O. I doubt that will ever be used though.)

>> These are just attributes, which are best used for appearance and style
>> rather than completely changing the meaning of something. What next,
>> colour?
>>
>
> why not?...
> (not being entirely serious here... but this is a logical extension...).

If you want slow down productivity by an order of magnitude, then it's a
great idea! However, the concept seems to work in colorForth.

-- 
bartc 

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EE or CS? bob <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2013-01-08 09:28 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-01-08 10:41 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-01-08 21:41 +0100
    Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 20:50 +0000
      Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-01-08 22:25 +0100
        Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 21:35 +0000
          Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 22:51 +0000
            Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 23:23 +0000
              Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 23:31 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 12:58 +1300
                Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 01:35 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-09 02:13 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-09 11:28 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-09 12:51 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 23:52 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 12:04 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 14:28 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 21:58 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:25 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-01-09 05:35 -0800
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 22:43 -0600
                Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 12:22 +0000
                Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 14:20 -0600
    Re: EE or CS? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 22:15 -0600
  Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-09 10:19 +1300
  Re: EE or CS? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-08 22:54 +0000
  Re: EE or CS? Robert Miles <robertmilesxyz@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:26 -0800
  Re: EE or CS? Dan <dantex1@aol.com> - 2013-02-19 19:12 -0800
    Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-20 09:16 +0000
      Re: EE or CS? Dan <dantex1@aol.com> - 2013-02-20 18:59 -0800
        Re: EE or CS? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-21 16:40 +1300
          Re: EE or CS? "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2013-02-21 11:45 +0100
          Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-21 11:45 +0000
        Re: EE or CS? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-02-21 07:36 +0000

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