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  booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-07 22:00 -0400
    Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 17:05 +0000
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 13:20 -0400
        Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 20:56 +0000
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:27 -0400
            Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:58 +0000
              Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-09 07:44 -0700
                Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 16:51 -0400
                  Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 15:57 -0500
                    Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 18:19 -0400
                      Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 17:50 -0500
            Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 14:30 -0400
              Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-12 03:24 +0000
                Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:14 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-04-08 19:15 +0000
        Re: booting with usb Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 15:03 +0000
    Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 12:51 -0500
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:10 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Roland Latour <no-one@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 13:28 -0500
        Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 11:33 -0700
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:39 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 16:18 -0500
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:19 -0400
            Re: booting with usb Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-04-09 02:28 +0000
            Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 04:00 +0000
          Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:59 +0000
    Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 20:46 +0200
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 15:15 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 21:29 +0200
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 20:14 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 13:03 -0700
          Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 13:56 -0400
            Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-10 11:17 -0700
        Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 21:01 +0000
        Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-11 13:57 +0000
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 17:04 -0400
            Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:29 -0400
    Re: booting with usb Andreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-04-08 17:54 -0400
      Re: booting with usb J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-04-08 23:18 +0000

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#14391 — booting with usb

    Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb. I have 
looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I was advised to 
use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything with initramfs.conf ? 
initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any one know anything about 
this?

Bill

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#14396

On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb. I have 
> looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I was advised to 
> use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything with initramfs.conf ? 
> initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any one know anything about 
> this?

Information would be good. What computer? Does it use URFI or legacy
boot? Is usb booting enabled in the bios? Whic distribution are you
trying to boot? 
And the referent for the word "this" in the first sentence is missing. 

Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
you tell us. 

Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
an /etc/fstab of its own. 
No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.


>
> Bill
>
>

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#14397

"William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...

[...]

> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
> you tell us.
>
> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
> an /etc/fstab of its own.
> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.

Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use old 
/dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so it's 
legacy HD no SSDs.

    I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can be 
tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.

Bill

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#14409

On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>
> [...]
>
>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>> you tell us.
>>
>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>
> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use old 
> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so it's 
> legacy HD no SSDs.
>
>     I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can be 
> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.

It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
does not use efi?
And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
efi rathr than from mbr?

>
> Bill
>
>

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#14415

"William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
news:mg44mm$p64$2@dont-email.me...
> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>>> you tell us.
>>>
>>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>>
>> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use 
>> old
>> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so 
>> it's
>> legacy HD no SSDs.
>>
>>     I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can 
>> be
>> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.
>
> It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
> USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
> from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
> does not use efi?
> And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
> efi rathr than from mbr?
>

    I've seen dumps of my mbr and made changes to it enough times I'm sure 
it's an mbr. And for windows there's a vbr. I don't know about linux I am 
running an ext3 filesystem. I don't know if it has a vbr or not. I purchased 
my computer in 2004.

Bill

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#14419

On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
> news:mg44mm$p64$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>>>> you tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>>>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>>>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>>>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>>>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>>>
>>> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use 
>>> old
>>> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so 
>>> it's
>>> legacy HD no SSDs.
>>>
>>>     I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can 
>>> be
>>> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.
>>
>> It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
>> USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
>> from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
>> does not use efi?
>> And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
>> efi rathr than from mbr?
>>
>
>     I've seen dumps of my mbr and made changes to it enough times I'm sure 
> it's an mbr. And for windows there's a vbr. I don't know about linux I am 
> running an ext3 filesystem. I don't know if it has a vbr or not. I purchased 
> my computer in 2004.

That might be old enough that it cannot boot from usb. 
And yes, it will not have efi boot capability, so it has to be mbr
No idea what vbr is. 

Get an "one" drive that you know will boot from usb, install it on your
usb (as an iso not as a file) and try that. If that does not work, you
computer probablycannot boot from usb. Either buy a new one, of get a
cdrom drive that you can boot from.

>
> Bill
>
>

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#14425

On 04/08/2015 08:58 PM, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>> news:mg44mm$p64$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>>>>> you tell us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>>>>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>>>>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>>>>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>>>>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use
>>>> old
>>>> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so
>>>> it's
>>>> legacy HD no SSDs.
>>>>
>>>>      I have tried many things. I have been told that booting with linux can
>>>> be
>>>> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.
>>>
>>> It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
>>> USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
>>> from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
>>> does not use efi?
>>> And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
>>> efi rathr than from mbr?
>>>
>>
>>      I've seen dumps of my mbr and made changes to it enough times I'm sure
>> it's an mbr. And for windows there's a vbr. I don't know about linux I am
>> running an ext3 filesystem. I don't know if it has a vbr or not. I purchased
>> my computer in 2004.
>
> That might be old enough that it cannot boot from usb.
> And yes, it will not have efi boot capability, so it has to be mbr
> No idea what vbr is.
>
> Get an "one" drive that you know will boot from usb, install it on your
> usb (as an iso not as a file) and try that. If that does not work, you
> computer probablycannot boot from usb. Either buy a new one, of get a
> cdrom drive that you can boot from.
>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
	I went to the site and downloaded the zip file and it is not
an iso file contained but is a collection of what would be in the
iso file.  So using dd it is supposed to be copied to the USB drive
and made into a bootable drive using procedures they described on
the clonzilla web pages.

	Seems back-assward to me but I am not that skilled.
	It seems to me that some of my reading included copying a
special file to the Flash Drive from an iso file but this is
something else requiring the use of other programs.

	I think the OP needs to go back and re-read the
instruction given there.

	I have a problem with getting Kali onto a stick much
less getting it to boot and am going to go back and reread
the Kali instructions.

	bliss

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#14432

"Bobbie Sellers" <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote in message 
news:mg637d$ves$1@dont-email.me...

> I went to the site and downloaded the zip file and it is not
> an iso file contained but is a collection of what would be in the
> iso file.  So using dd it is supposed to be copied to the USB drive
> and made into a bootable drive using procedures they described on
> the clonzilla web pages.
>
> Seems back-assward to me but I am not that skilled.
> It seems to me that some of my reading included copying a
> special file to the Flash Drive from an iso file but this is
> something else requiring the use of other programs.
>
> I think the OP needs to go back and re-read the
> instruction given there.
>
> I have a problem with getting Kali onto a stick much
> less getting it to boot and am going to go back and reread
> the Kali instructions.

    There may be alot of these things I don't need. With a small freshly 
formatted USB with fat32 The BIOS recognized it as a sandisk. And said 
"Verifying DPI (or DMI) ..." something I can't remember. And just sits. I 
have to remove the usb and reboot. Things are normal then. Does that make 
any sense to anyone?

Bill

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#14434

On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:51:09 -0400
"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> 
> "Bobbie Sellers" <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote in message 
> news:mg637d$ves$1@dont-email.me...
> 
> > I went to the site and downloaded the zip file and it is not
> > an iso file contained but is a collection of what would be in the
> > iso file.  So using dd it is supposed to be copied to the USB drive
> > and made into a bootable drive using procedures they described on
> > the clonzilla web pages.
> >
> > Seems back-assward to me but I am not that skilled.
> > It seems to me that some of my reading included copying a
> > special file to the Flash Drive from an iso file but this is
> > something else requiring the use of other programs.
> >
> > I think the OP needs to go back and re-read the
> > instruction given there.
> >
> > I have a problem with getting Kali onto a stick much
> > less getting it to boot and am going to go back and reread
> > the Kali instructions.
> 
>     There may be alot of these things I don't need. With a small
> freshly formatted USB with fat32 The BIOS recognized it as a sandisk.
> And said "Verifying DPI (or DMI) ..." something I can't remember. And
> just sits. I have to remove the usb and reboot. Things are normal
> then. Does that make any sense to anyone?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

Computer Hangs at "Verifying DMI 

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/computer/dmi.html

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#14435

"Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:20150409155744.6eb521a8@jmspc...
> Computer Hangs at "Verifying DMI
>
> http://www.duxcw.com/faq/computer/dmi.html

Yes that's it. Verifing DMI Pool data. An dit sits for quite a time. Now my 
USB floppy drive it waits a little then boots. That's my problem then.

Bill 

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#14437

On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:19:46 -0400
"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> 
> "Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
> news:20150409155744.6eb521a8@jmspc...
> > Computer Hangs at "Verifying DMI
> >
> > http://www.duxcw.com/faq/computer/dmi.html
> 
> Yes that's it. Verifing DMI Pool data. An dit sits for quite a time.
> Now my USB floppy drive it waits a little then boots. That's my
> problem then.
> 
> Bill 
> 
> 

You said your computer is 11 years old.  Have you ever changed the CMOS
battery?

If the battery has been changed, the article also said the CMOS could
be corrupt.  I think you can reset it by removing the battery, leaving
it out for about thirty seconds and replacing it.

How can I reset CMOS or BIOS settings?
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000976.htm

How to replace the CMOS battery:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000239.htm

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#14457

On 04/08/2015 06:27 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
> news:mg44mm$p64$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>>>> you tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>>>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>>>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>>>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>>>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>>>
>>> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use
>>> old
>>> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so
>>> it's
>>> legacy HD no SSDs.
>>>
>>>      I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can
>>> be
>>> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.
>>
>> It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
>> USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
>> from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
>> does not use efi?
>> And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
>> efi rathr than from mbr?
>>
>
>      I've seen dumps of my mbr and made changes to it enough times I'm sure
> it's an mbr. And for windows there's a vbr. I don't know about linux I am
> running an ext3 filesystem. I don't know if it has a vbr or not. I purchased
> my computer in 2004.
>
> Bill
>
>
I have 3 older computers from around that time. One motherboard is the 
same year as yours, one is a year older, and the newest is a year or so 
newer. Different manufacturers. The oldest can't boot from usb at all. 
The other two can, but I have to push F12 on the keyboard at POST to do 
so - and that "boot menu" capability has to be turned on in the BIOS 
before it will work.

No problems at all booting the Mageia KDE i586 LiveDVD from a usb flash 
device on either machine capable of doing so, but I used a Linux program 
called "isodumper" to create them.

TJ

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#14497

On 2015-04-10, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
> I have 3 older computers from around that time. One motherboard is the 
> same year as yours, one is a year older, and the newest is a year or so 
> newer. Different manufacturers. The oldest can't boot from usb at all. 

If you're interested in booting USB sticks on that oldest PC, TJ, look
for the Plop boot manager.  If I recall correctly, after configuring it
properly it shows up in your GRUB menu, rather than skipping the GRUB
menu and booting directly from the USB stick.
-- 
                                 Chick Tower

For e-mail:  colm DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net

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#14505

On 04/11/2015 11:24 PM, Chick Tower wrote:
> On 2015-04-10, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
>> I have 3 older computers from around that time. One motherboard is the
>> same year as yours, one is a year older, and the newest is a year or so
>> newer. Different manufacturers. The oldest can't boot from usb at all.
>
> If you're interested in booting USB sticks on that oldest PC, TJ, look
> for the Plop boot manager.  If I recall correctly, after configuring it
> properly it shows up in your GRUB menu, rather than skipping the GRUB
> menu and booting directly from the USB stick.
>
I did look into it after reading an earlier post, and it did sound good. 
However the answer to FAQ#4, concerning USB keyboards, states that the 
author's USB drivers won't work with them. All of my keyboards/mice are 
cordless desksets, with one USB receiver for keyboard and mouse. If I'm 
reading it correctly, that means that most likely they won't work.

I suppose I could come up with an old corded PS/2 keyboard, but as the 
only time I ever might want to boot to USB with that computer is to 
install a new version of Mageia and the optical drive still works fine 
for that (if slower), I don't know if it's worth the trouble either way.

I've come to the conclusion that a better solution, for me, would be to 
keep watch on eBay for what I think would be a good deal on a 
salvaged/used motherboard/processor upgrade for my main computer, then 
transfer that computer's motherboard and processor to the older case. 
That way, even though everything I have would still be out-of-date it 
would be less out-of-date than it is now. I'd even be able to convert 
everything to 64-bit versions of Mageia if I wanted. A win-win.

TJ

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#14406

On 2015-04-08, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb. I have 
>> looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I was advised to 
>> use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything with initramfs.conf ? 
>> initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any one know anything about 
>> this?
>
> Information would be good. What computer? Does it use URFI or legacy
> boot? Is usb booting enabled in the bios? Whic distribution are you
> trying to boot? 
> And the referent for the word "this" in the first sentence is missing. 

What a wonderful typo!  "URFI" is the sound you make when
Microsoft kicks you in the stomach.  Again.

-- 
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#14470

On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 19:15:45 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2015-04-08, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.
>>>     I have
>>> looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I was
>>> advised to use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything with
>>> initramfs.conf ? initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any one
>>> know anything about this?
>>
>> Information would be good. What computer? Does it use URFI or legacy
>> boot? Is usb booting enabled in the bios? Whic distribution are you
>> trying to boot?

AFAIK
 BIOS must show the facility [in its menu].
 probably USB-CDROM and
 my this old MOBO [does SATA & old-IDE] has a selection for "USB zip"
 [strange name?!] which boots the USBstik,
 which the Slak13 installation has setup;
 and which I've been editing, since the Slak install just wrote to the
 [obviously M$ formatted] new USBstik. 

IMO initramfs.conf can't be accessed until booting has suceeded?
===> here's part of the mess:---
~:fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 8023 MB, 8023703552 bytes
247 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15314 * 512 = 7840768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xde8e7bb0

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   ?      197240      197273      253319   e4  SpeedStor
Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
     phys=(190, 120, 0) logical=(197239, 8, 51)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(544, 125, 44) logical=(197272, 29, 24)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdb2   ?       65729      195542   993984023   98  Unknown
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
     phys=(1010, 16, 43) logical=(65728, 56, 10)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(205, 205, 22) logical=(195541, 245, 55)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdb3   ?      110790      236159   959953209   7d  Unknown
Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
     phys=(252, 139, 46) logical=(110789, 48, 54)
Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(367, 195, 2) logical=(236158, 138, 25)
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdb4   ?         244         249       32768    0  Empty
Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
     phys=(0, 10, 0) logical=(243, 229, 53)
Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(0, 0, 0) logical=(248, 51, 54)
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Partition table entries are not in disk order
-------------------Here's the USBstik [single partition's contents:-
# ls -l
total 12148
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     595 2014-02-25 12:50 HOW2boot2Win
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    2267 2015-04-06 20:44 Log
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    4096 2014-09-25 19:04 Mandr9fd0Btr
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    4096 2014-02-25 12:50 etc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     653 2013-09-02 22:27 f1.txt ++
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root    4096 2014-10-22 15:35 fromwxp.dir
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2375866 2014-09-17 14:28 initrd.gz <- for kz
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    4096 2014-09-17 14:32 kogi4.dos
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4907792 2014-09-17 14:29 kz <-difrnt Knl
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   10827 2013-09-02 22:27 ldlinux.sys ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     708 2013-11-28 19:13 message.txt ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     906 2014-12-17 15:17 sylinux.cfg ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     302 2014-09-17 15:27 sysBKcfg ++ 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     396 2014-10-09 14:49 syslOct.cfg ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     609 2014-09-29 11:11 syslOct.cfgL ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     974 2015-04-06 20:46 syslinux.cfg ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     411 2014-10-09 19:10 syslinux.cfgC32 ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     309 2014-09-17 14:38 syslnxB2.cfg ++
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    4096 2014-07-12 14:06 tts
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  123172 2014-10-09 15:57 vesamenu.c32 ++
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4940304 2013-09-02 22:27 vmlinuz ++

The ones marked "++" were from the Slak13 installation;
 PLUS ones that I've edited/experimented.

vesamenu.c32 and ldlinux.sys are the original binaries.

Since it's a 8GB stik, I've written other M$ stuff for if/when I boot
winXP.

hexdump of ldlinux.sys [apparently the loader] is:--
00000000 0D 0A 53 59  53 4C 49 4E  55 58 20 33  2E 35 32 20 ..SYSLINUX 
3.52
00000010 32 30 30 37  2D 30 39 2D  32 35 20 00  0D 0A 1A 00 
2007-09-25 .....
00000020 FE 02 B2 3E  44 07 41 78  92 0A 15 00  D1 8A 9D 
A5 ...>D.Ax........
------
one text files does the config; which I've expanded/experimented;
and one does the message/prompts.

It works well for me.
And an alternative boot-route to different instalattion/s & M$ is
to unplug the stik and go via the 2nd-alternative: hard-disk:MBR.

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#14398

On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 22:00:51 -0400
"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:

>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.
> I have looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I
> was advised to use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything
> with initramfs.conf ? initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any
> one know anything about this?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

Are you trying to boot from a USB stick?

I have an old HP that doesn't see the USB stick when booting up.

Heres how I got it to recognize it:

Turn off the computer.

Unplug the computer.

Push the power button several times.

Plug the computer back in.

Insert the USB stick.

Power on the computer.

At the Splash screen, hit f9 or the key for Boot Menu.

The USB stick should show up as a hard drive.

Choose it, and boot from it.

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#14400

"Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:20150408125123.0e7019a5@jmspc...
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 22:00:51 -0400
> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.
>> I have looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I
>> was advised to use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything
>> with initramfs.conf ? initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any
>> one know anything about this?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
> Are you trying to boot from a USB stick?
>
> I have an old HP that doesn't see the USB stick when booting up.
>
> Heres how I got it to recognize it:
>
> Turn off the computer.
>
> Unplug the computer.
>
> Push the power button several times.
>
> Plug the computer back in.
>
> Insert the USB stick.
>
> Power on the computer.
>
> At the Splash screen, hit f9 or the key for Boot Menu.
>
> The USB stick should show up as a hard drive.
>
> Choose it, and boot from it.

My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the make of 
the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting from usb is quite 
common.

Bill

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#14401

On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400, Bill Cunningham wrote:

> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting from
> usb is quite common.

My computer is 6 years old. The BIOS has an option for a menu of
boot devices. It always recognizes USB drives wherever they are. But
strangely enough, it won't boot from USB thumbdrives if they are
plugged into some ports. I have 6 USB ports, 2 in front, and I can
only boot thumbdrives from two of the ports in the back.

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#14402

On 04/08/2015 11:10 AM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> "Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:20150408125123.0e7019a5@jmspc...
>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 22:00:51 -0400
>> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>      Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.
>>> I have looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I
>>> was advised to use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything
>>> with initramfs.conf ? initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any
>>> one know anything about this?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Are you trying to boot from a USB stick?
>>
>> I have an old HP that doesn't see the USB stick when booting up.
>>
>> Heres how I got it to recognize it:
>>
>> Turn off the computer.
>>
>> Unplug the computer.
>>
>> Push the power button several times.
>>
>> Plug the computer back in.
>>
>> Insert the USB stick.
>>
>> Power on the computer.
>>
>> At the Splash screen, hit f9 or the key for Boot Menu.
>>
>> The USB stick should show up as a hard drive.
>>
>> Choose it, and boot from it.
>
> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the make of
> the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting from usb is quite
> common.
>
> Bill
>
>
	So Bill how did you create that USB stick to be bootable?

	Have you set your BIOS boot order to start with the USB stick as first 
choice?

	Some computers have a hard time using USB sticks but a computer
as new as your should have no problem.
	Using recent computers I have had no problem with USB booting
on older computer and have even installed from PCLOS from such a USB.

	bliss

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