Re: booting with usb

From	William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: booting with usb
Date	2015-04-09 03:58 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message 
> news:mg44mm$p64$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "William Unruh" <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:mg3n5k$vfg$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Really we cannot read your mind. The only information we have is what
>>>> you tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Note that fstab is irrelevant for booting, and the usb drive will have
>>>> an /etc/fstab of its own.
>>>> No, booting is self contained and you do not need to do anything with
>>>> initramfs. But first you need to tell us a huge amount more of what you
>>>> are trying to do and what system you are trying to do it on.
>>>
>>> Oh yes sorry. Fedora 20. X64 computer with mbr not UEFI. I usually use 
>>> old
>>> /dev/sdX in my fstab Not uuids. No gpt but mbr. My computer is 11 yo so 
>>> it's
>>> legacy HD no SSDs.
>>>
>>>     I have tried many things. I have been told that boting with linux can 
>>> be
>>> tricky. It's never worked for me yet and I've used many methods.
>>
>> It has always worked for me except on computers that cannot boot from
>> USB (eg 1998 era computers). Are you sure you set up the bios to boot
>> from usb before booting from the hard disk? And are you sure your system
>> does not use efi?
>> And that the fedora you have on the usbstick is not set up to boot from
>> efi rathr than from mbr?
>>
>
>     I've seen dumps of my mbr and made changes to it enough times I'm sure 
> it's an mbr. And for windows there's a vbr. I don't know about linux I am 
> running an ext3 filesystem. I don't know if it has a vbr or not. I purchased 
> my computer in 2004.

That might be old enough that it cannot boot from usb. 
And yes, it will not have efi boot capability, so it has to be mbr
No idea what vbr is. 

Get an "one" drive that you know will boot from usb, install it on your
usb (as an iso not as a file) and try that. If that does not work, you
computer probablycannot boot from usb. Either buy a new one, of get a
cdrom drive that you can boot from.

>
> Bill
>
>

Thread

booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-07 22:00 -0400
  Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 17:05 +0000
    Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 13:20 -0400
      Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 20:56 +0000
        Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:27 -0400
          Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:58 +0000
            Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-09 07:44 -0700
              Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 16:51 -0400
                Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 15:57 -0500
                Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 18:19 -0400
                Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 17:50 -0500
          Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 14:30 -0400
            Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-12 03:24 +0000
              Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:14 -0400
    Re: booting with usb Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-04-08 19:15 +0000
      Re: booting with usb Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 15:03 +0000
  Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 12:51 -0500
    Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:10 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Roland Latour <no-one@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 13:28 -0500
      Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 11:33 -0700
        Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:39 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 16:18 -0500
        Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:19 -0400
          Re: booting with usb Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-04-09 02:28 +0000
          Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 04:00 +0000
        Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:59 +0000
  Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 20:46 +0200
    Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 15:15 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 21:29 +0200
        Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 20:14 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 13:03 -0700
        Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 13:56 -0400
          Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-10 11:17 -0700
      Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 21:01 +0000
      Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-11 13:57 +0000
        Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 17:04 -0400
          Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:29 -0400
  Re: booting with usb Andreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-04-08 17:54 -0400
    Re: booting with usb J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-04-08 23:18 +0000

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