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  Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> - 2015-09-28 18:19 -0400
    Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-28 18:22 -0400
      Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 10:15 +1000
    Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com> - 2015-09-28 20:01 -0400
      Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> - 2015-09-28 20:58 -0400
      Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-29 18:14 +1200
        Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:45 -0700
          Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-29 19:52 +0000
            Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:20 +1000
            Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 00:11 -0700
              Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-30 18:48 +0000
                Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 11:04 -0700
        Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-29 19:45 +0000
        Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:15 +1000
          Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-30 18:11 +1200
            Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 08:01 +1000
      Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 10:56 +1000
    Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 10:15 +1000
      Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> - 2015-09-28 21:11 -0400
        Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 04:10 +0000
        Re: Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:10 +1000

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#22491 — Best emergency email attachment to Android & iOS homes?

I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.

What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
(both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
contact book.

I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
which order they put the headers? 

I'm thinking this order for the fields:
1. First name (comma)
2. Last name (comma)
3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma> 
4. Email address (comma)
5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)

If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the 
recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should 
suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?

Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
list?

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#22492

In article
<9625$5609bcea$904cd685$27274@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Mitch
Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> wrote:

> I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
> format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
> 
> What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
> alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
> (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
> contact book.

import to google contacts and sync, which will work for both android
and ios.
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/14024?hl=en>
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/12119?hl=en>

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#22499

"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:280920151822418426%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article
> <9625$5609bcea$904cd685$27274@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Mitch
> Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
>> format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>>
>> What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
>> alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
>> (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
>> contact book.
>
> import to google contacts and sync,

That isn't going to work for those that don't use gmail.

> which will work for both android and ios.
> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/14024?hl=en>
> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/12119?hl=en> 

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#22498

Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
> I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
> format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>
> What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
> alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
> (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
> contact book.
>
> I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
> which order they put the headers?
>
> I'm thinking this order for the fields:
> 1. First name (comma)
> 2. Last name (comma)
> 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
> 4. Email address (comma)
> 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
> 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
>
> If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
> recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
> suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
>
> Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
> csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
> list?
>
Do you have them already in Google Contacts????

The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it exports to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite 
popular with MS Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf file.

I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.

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#22503

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:01:24 -0400, Big Al wrote:

> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????

No. I don't use Google Contacts, and, besides, it doesn't matter what 
I use, as this is for a few dozen neighbors, so, Google Contacts probably
is too specific.

> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function 
> and it exports to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite 
> popular with MS Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also 
> import that vcf file.

Ah. VCF. I saw that option in my own contact exporter.
Does VCF work with most smart mobile devices to import contacts?
It has to work standalone because we won't know which desktop they
have (or even if they have a desktop).

> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.

Searching for how to import VCF into iOS, there are some good hits.

 How to import/transfer your vCard files to iPhone or iPad Easily 
 http://www.wondershare.com/mobile-phone/vcf-to-iphone.html
 (seems to require an iCloud account though)

 How to import multiple vcard contacts into iphone4 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4619772?start=0&tstart=0
 (seems to again require something called an iCloud account)

 Transfer Contacts to iPhone Without iTunes
 http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/24/transfer-contacts-to-iphone-without-itunes/
 (seems to work without needing the iCloud so this is the way to go)

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#22506

In article <muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me>, Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com>
wrote:
> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
> > 
> > I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
> > format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
> >
> > What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
> > alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
> > (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
> > contact book.
> >
> > I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
> > which order they put the headers?
> >
> > I'm thinking this order for the fields:
> > 1. First name (comma)
> > 2. Last name (comma)
> > 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
> > 4. Email address (comma)
> > 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
> > 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
> >
> > If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
> > recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
> > suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
> >
> > Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
> > csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
> > list?
> 
> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
> 
> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it exports
> to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite 
> popular with MS Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf
> file.
> 
> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.

Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
up their personal address books??

It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
needed.

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#22512

On 09/28/2015 11:14 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me>, Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
>> >
>> > I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
>> > format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>> >
>> > What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
>> > alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
>> > (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
>> > contact book.
>> >
>> > I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
>> > which order they put the headers?
>> >
>> > I'm thinking this order for the fields:
>> > 1. First name (comma)
>> > 2. Last name (comma)
>> > 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
>> > 4. Email address (comma)
>> > 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
>> > 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
>> >
>> > If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
>> > recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
>> > suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
>> >
>> > Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
>> > csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
>> > list?
>>
>> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
>>
>> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it exports
>> to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite
>> popular with MS Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf
>> file.
>>
>> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.
>
> Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
> up their personal address books??
>
> It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
> they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
> needed.

Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of 
everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address 
in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't 
easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and 
email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet 
(LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page 
multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(

If somebody sent me a vcf/vcard list of his emergency contacts I'd 
figure anybody that rude or stupid deserves to bleed out or burn to 
death :-(

-- 
Cheers, Bev
=========================================
Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.

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#22515

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of 
> everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address 
> in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't 
> easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and 
> email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet 
> (LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page 
> multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(

  I don't understand the "LOTS of editing" bit.

  I don't 'do' speadsheets myself, but isn't it trivial for a
spreadsheet program to convert a CSV (or tabSV) file to a CSV/tabSV/
<whatever> text file in the desired format?

  Or you could export-import TB's addressbook to Windows Live Mail and
export-import it back to TB in the desired format! (Just kidding!)

[...]

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#22524

"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:d708gpFfp00U1@mid.individual.net...
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of
>> everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address
>> in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't
>> easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and
>> email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet
>> (LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page
>> multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(
>
>  I don't understand the "LOTS of editing" bit.
>
>  I don't 'do' speadsheets myself,

You should, they are surprisingly useful.

> but isn't it trivial for a spreadsheet program
> to convert a CSV (or tabSV) file to a CSV/tabSV/
> <whatever> text file in the desired format?

Yes it is.

> Or you could export-import TB's addressbook to Windows Live Mail
> and export-import it back to TB in the desired format! (Just kidding!)
 

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#22529

On 09/29/2015 12:52 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of
>> everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address
>> in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't
>> easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and
>> email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet
>> (LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page
>> multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(
>
>    I don't understand the "LOTS of editing" bit.
>
>    I don't 'do' speadsheets myself, but isn't it trivial for a
> spreadsheet program to convert a CSV (or tabSV) file to a CSV/tabSV/
> <whatever> text file in the desired format?

Yabbut...

>    Or you could export-import TB's addressbook to Windows Live Mail and
> export-import it back to TB in the desired format! (Just kidding!)

The problem is names.  Most of the entries were collected from email 
that I answered, and people use various formats for their names.  There 
are several 'name' fields so I have to integrate them into one EACH TIME 
I run a list.

I can SEE the addressbook with only the 'name' (apparently TB does 
something magical) and 'email address' fields, why can't I export ONLY 
those?

What idiot wants to print his addressbook with 6 or 7 entries per page?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
To define recursion, we must first define recursion.

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#22539

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/29/2015 12:52 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of
> >> everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address
> >> in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't
> >> easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and
> >> email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet
> >> (LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page
> >> multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(
> >
> >    I don't understand the "LOTS of editing" bit.
> >
> >    I don't 'do' speadsheets myself, but isn't it trivial for a
> > spreadsheet program to convert a CSV (or tabSV) file to a CSV/tabSV/
> > <whatever> text file in the desired format?
> 
> Yabbut...
> 
> >    Or you could export-import TB's addressbook to Windows Live Mail and
> > export-import it back to TB in the desired format! (Just kidding!)
> 
> The problem is names.  Most of the entries were collected from email 
> that I answered, and people use various formats for their names.  There 
> are several 'name' fields so I have to integrate them into one EACH TIME 
> I run a list.

  Ah, so you're basically saying that your addressbook is a mess and
needs to be cleaned up before you can make your desired short-list!

  As to "people use various formats for their names", make sure that the
name part of the email address is correct and all will be well.

  With "the name part of the email address", I mean for example the
"Frank Slootweg" part in my From: address:

From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>

(of course IRL, the "<this@ddress.is.invalid>" part will be a valid
email address)

  TB calls this the 'Display Name'.
  
  If in TB the 'Display Name' is correct, you're all set. If it's not
set, TB will put the 'username' in what it displays in the 'Name' field.

  You can check whether or not 'Display Name' is set, by clicking on an
addressbook entry. If 'Display Name' is set, the bottom pane will show
it. If it's not set, it will only show the email address (user@msp.com).

  Some examples:

Frank Slootweg <frankie@myisp.com> -> 'Name' field says "Frank Slootweg"
<frankie@mymsp.com>		   -> 'Name' field says "frankie"

> I can SEE the addressbook with only the 'name' (apparently TB does 
> something magical) and 'email address' fields, why can't I export ONLY 
> those?
> 
> What idiot wants to print his addressbook with 6 or 7 entries per page?

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#22567

On 09/30/2015 11:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2015 12:52 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> Exactly.  I despise the vcard thing -- it's incredibly wasteful of
>> >> everything possible.  All I ever want is name / phone# / email address
>> >> in a simple text or pdf file.  It's a constant annoyance that I can't
>> >> easily convert Thunderbird's addressbook into a simple list of name and
>> >> email address (one name per line) without going through a spreadsheet
>> >> (LOTS of editing) and then a word processor to get a simple one-page
>> >> multi-column list of my 1500 contacts :-(
>> >
>> >    I don't understand the "LOTS of editing" bit.
>> >
>> >    I don't 'do' speadsheets myself, but isn't it trivial for a
>> > spreadsheet program to convert a CSV (or tabSV) file to a CSV/tabSV/
>> > <whatever> text file in the desired format?
>>
>> Yabbut...
>>
>> >    Or you could export-import TB's addressbook to Windows Live Mail and
>> > export-import it back to TB in the desired format! (Just kidding!)
>>
>> The problem is names.  Most of the entries were collected from email
>> that I answered, and people use various formats for their names.  There
>> are several 'name' fields so I have to integrate them into one EACH TIME
>> I run a list.
>
>    Ah, so you're basically saying that your addressbook is a mess and
> needs to be cleaned up before you can make your desired short-list!
>
>    As to "people use various formats for their names", make sure that the
> name part of the email address is correct and all will be well.
>
>    With "the name part of the email address", I mean for example the
> "Frank Slootweg" part in my From: address:
>
> From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>
> (of course IRL, the "<this@ddress.is.invalid>" part will be a valid
> email address)
>
>    TB calls this the 'Display Name'.
>
>    If in TB the 'Display Name' is correct, you're all set. If it's not
> set, TB will put the 'username' in what it displays in the 'Name' field.
>
>    You can check whether or not 'Display Name' is set, by clicking on an
> addressbook entry. If 'Display Name' is set, the bottom pane will show
> it. If it's not set, it will only show the email address (user@msp.com).

This is the problem.  3 different columns, some containing data and some 
not.  850 entries (I guess I got rid of a lot of them a couple of months 
ago, and I need to get rid of more).  NOT going to edit each one.

I exported the whole thing .csv and opened it with libreoffice.  Deleted 
all columns except display name and email address.  Exported that to a 
.csv file, which ended up with all the email addresses, but 200 entries 
with no name at all.  Trial and error, took about 15 minutes.  I could 
suck that into a multi-column document, but before I print that (to fold 
and keep in my wallet, along with my hand-compiled list of phone 
numbers) I want to get rid of the losers.  Maybe next week.

I still don't know the answer...


-- 
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the
  American Public."                              -- H.L. Mencken

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#22514

Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
[...]
> Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
> up their personal address books??
> 
> It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
> they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
> needed.

  It might be still better/best to send both (vcf and PDF) or all three
(vcf, PDF and text).

  A plain text file cannot replace a PDF, because it assumes a fixed
width font, while many/most people have/use a proportional font.

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#22526

"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in message 
news:290920151814332325%YourName@YourISP.com...
> In article <muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me>, Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
>> >
>> > I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
>> > format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>> >
>> > What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
>> > alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
>> > (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
>> > contact book.
>> >
>> > I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
>> > which order they put the headers?
>> >
>> > I'm thinking this order for the fields:
>> > 1. First name (comma)
>> > 2. Last name (comma)
>> > 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
>> > 4. Email address (comma)
>> > 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
>> > 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
>> >
>> > If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
>> > recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
>> > suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
>> >
>> > Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
>> > csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
>> > list?
>>
>> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
>>
>> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it 
>> exports
>> to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite
>> popular with MS Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that 
>> vcf
>> file.
>>
>> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.
>
> Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
> up their personal address books??
>
> It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
> they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
> needed.

I wouldn't do it that way myself. You really need to have that sort
of number where you would normally look first for that sort of
thing, not have to remember what you did with the separate
list of emergency contacts when the shit has just hit the fan and
the mega wildfire is bearing down on you at a rate of knots or
some arsehole is rampaging around shooting everyone in sight. 

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#22528

In article <d70s0mFk9ssU1@mid.individual.net>, Sam Thatch
<st342@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in message 
> news:290920151814332325%YourName@YourISP.com...
> > In article <muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me>, Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
> >> >
> >> > I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
> >> > format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
> >> >
> >> > What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
> >> > alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
> >> > (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
> >> > contact book.
> >> >
> >> > I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
> >> > which order they put the headers?
> >> >
> >> > I'm thinking this order for the fields:
> >> > 1. First name (comma)
> >> > 2. Last name (comma)
> >> > 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
> >> > 4. Email address (comma)
> >> > 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
> >> > 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
> >> >
> >> > If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
> >> > recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
> >> > suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
> >> >
> >> > Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
> >> > csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
> >> > list?
> >>
> >> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
> >>
> >> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it 
> >> exports to my sd card as a VCF file. VCF is quite popular with MS 
> >> Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf file.
> >>
> >> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.
> >
> > Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
> > up their personal address books??
> >
> > It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
> > they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
> > needed.
> 
> I wouldn't do it that way myself. You really need to have that sort
> of number where you would normally look first for that sort of
> thing, not have to remember what you did with the separate
> list of emergency contacts when the shit has just hit the fan and
> the mega wildfire is bearing down on you at a rate of knots or
> some arsehole is rampaging around shooting everyone in sight. 

In a *real* emergency, you'd be phoning the police, ambulance, and/or
fire services (assuming the phone service is still working), not some
bunch of numb nuts on a local neighbourhood phone list.  :-)

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#22541

"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in message 
news:300920151811500107%YourName@YourISP.com...
> In article <d70s0mFk9ssU1@mid.individual.net>, Sam Thatch
> <st342@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in message
>> news:290920151814332325%YourName@YourISP.com...
>> > In article <muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me>, Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
>> >> >
>> >> > I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
>> >> > format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>> >> >
>> >> > What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
>> >> > alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
>> >> > (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
>> >> > contact book.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
>> >> > which order they put the headers?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm thinking this order for the fields:
>> >> > 1. First name (comma)
>> >> > 2. Last name (comma)
>> >> > 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
>> >> > 4. Email address (comma)
>> >> > 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
>> >> > 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
>> >> >
>> >> > If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
>> >> > recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
>> >> > suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
>> >> > csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
>> >> > list?
>> >>
>> >> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
>> >>
>> >> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it
>> >> exports to my sd card as a VCF file. VCF is quite popular with MS
>> >> Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf file.
>> >>
>> >> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.
>> >
>> > Do these other people really want these "emergency contacts" cluttering
>> > up their personal address books??
>> >
>> > It might be better to simply send it as a PDF or plain text file that
>> > they can store anywhere and on any device and access if / when actually
>> > needed.
>>
>> I wouldn't do it that way myself. You really need to have that sort
>> of number where you would normally look first for that sort of
>> thing, not have to remember what you did with the separate
>> list of emergency contacts when the shit has just hit the fan and
>> the mega wildfire is bearing down on you at a rate of knots or
>> some arsehole is rampaging around shooting everyone in sight.
>
> In a *real* emergency, you'd be phoning the police, ambulance, and/or
> fire services (assuming the phone service is still working), not some
> bunch of numb nuts on a local neighbourhood phone list.  :-)

Not necessarily if you want to warn the locals about
what might well be about to happen to them. 

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#22521

"Big Al" <Big_al@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:muck8a$1g9$1@dont-email.me...
> Mitch Kaufmann wrote on 9/28/2015 6:19 PM:
>> I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
>> format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.
>>
>> What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood email
>> alias with a file attachment that anyone on any common phone
>> (both Android & iOS at the very least) can upload into their
>> contact book.
>>
>> I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best, but how do I know
>> which order they put the headers?
>>
>> I'm thinking this order for the fields:
>> 1. First name (comma)
>> 2. Last name (comma)
>> 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
>> 4. Email address (comma)
>> 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
>> 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)
>>
>> If the best email attachment format is csv, what does the
>> recipient have to do on Android and iOS that I should
>> suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?
>>
>> Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles
>> csv on both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact
>> list?
>>
> Do you have them already in Google Contacts????
>
> The 'contacts' app on my android phone has an export function and it 
> exports to my sd card as a VCF file.   VCF is quite popular with MS 
> Outlook, and android 'contacts' app will also import that vcf file.
>
> I don't use or have access to anything apple to verify this on iOS.

http://028499.com/how-to-import-contacts-to-iphone-6-plus-ios-8/
shows how to do that with iOS 

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#22500

Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> wrote

> I have an emergency telephone list that is in Excel spreadsheet
> format containing names, phone numbers, addresses, and email.

> What's the best way to email this out to the neighborhood
> email alias with a file attachment that anyone on any
> common phone (both Android & iOS at the very least)
> can upload into their contact book.

There isn't any easy way to do that.

> I'm "assuming" that csv format is the best,

It isn't necessarily.

> but how do I know which order they put the headers?

The problem isn't actually about the order.

> I'm thinking this order for the fields:
> 1. First name (comma)
> 2. Last name (comma)
> 3. Mobile phone <blank if unavailable, comma>
> 4. Email address (comma)
> 5. Home phone <comma, blank if unavailable, comma>
> 6. Address (blank if unavailable, no comma)

> If the best email attachment format is csv,

It isn't.

> what does the recipient have to do on Android and iOS that
> I should suggest to load the attachment into their contact list?

That's the problem with csv.

> Is there a specific app that I should suggest that handles csv on
> both Android & iOS that loads into the main contact list?

Nope.

Even the vCard format doesn’t have anything great in that respect either. 

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#22504

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:15:44 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Even the vCard format doesn’t have anything great in that respect either.

I have only googled a little bit but the VCard format someone suggested
does seem to be the most universal format on both android and on ios.

Most of the android hits showed that you just email the vcard file
to the android user who then just loads it into his contact list
using native android software.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-import-android-phone-contacts-from-your-com.html

The iOS hits are more confusing because some required external 
itunes on computers and other hits required an icloud account which
doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially for a contact list
which should never be stored on the cloud without permission from
everyone on the list (which is impractical for such a needless 
requirement).

But I did find ways to import on ios without needing the cloud or itunes:
http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/24/transfer-contacts-to-iphone-without-itunes/

So, I think we have the best answer.
1. I need to put the list into vcard vcf format.
2. I then email it to everyone and point them to those two instruction sets.
3. The users load the attached vcard file using their native operating system only.

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#22505

Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> The iOS hits are more confusing because some required external 
> itunes on computers and other hits required an icloud account which
> doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially for a contact list
> which should never be stored on the cloud without permission from
> everyone on the list (which is impractical for such a needless 
> requirement).

Whoever wrote that is wrong. All that is needed is to email/transfer the
vCard to the iOS or Mac user. When they receive it, they simply tap or open
it to import it. Simple.

> So, I think we have the best answer.
> 1. I need to put the list into vcard vcf format.
> 2. I then email it to everyone and point them to those two instruction sets.
> 3. The users load the attached vcard file using their native operating system only.

Yep!

-- 
Sent from my iPhone

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