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  Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-31 09:33 -0700
    Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:37 -0400
      Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-31 14:40 -0700
        Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:04 -0400
    Re: Linux? xJumper <sugarman@mailinator.com> - 2018-08-31 13:34 -0400
    Re: Linux? mrvtktjv <mrvtktjv@mp107.ct8.pl> - 2018-09-01 00:06 +0200
    Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:53 +0000
      Re: Linux? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-09-01 20:34 -0400
      Re: Linux? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-02 01:15 +0000
      Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 01:51 -0700
        Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-04 13:31 +0000
          Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 10:09 -0700
            Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-04 17:39 +0000
              Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 14:15 -0400
                Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 15:32 +0000
                  Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 20:16 -0400
                    Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:33 +0000
                      Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 12:40 -0400
                        Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 17:10 +0000
                          Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-08 17:51 -0400
              Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:50 -0700
              Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:59 -0700
                Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 13:53 +0000
                  Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-06 09:04 -0700
                    Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 18:09 +0000
                      Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-06 18:35 -0700
                        Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
                          Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-08 21:18 -0700
                  Re: Linux? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:20 -0700
                  Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 14:29 -0700
                    Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:04 +0000
                      Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-08 11:03 -0700
                        Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 19:18 +0000
                          Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-08 19:00 -0700
                            Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-09 15:05 +0000
                              Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-09 09:22 -0700
                          Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 19:08 -0700
                      Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-08 17:51 -0400
    Re:Linux? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:16 +0200

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#55563

On 09/04/2018 10:39 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 09/04/2018 06:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2018 03:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run
>>>>>> Android apps?
>>>>>
>>>>>      Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android
>>>>> tablet?
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Termux'
>>>>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux>
>>>>
>>>> me no want google spying
>>>
>>>     Please explain what *you* meand by that! I'm afraid our crystal balls
>>> are not *that* good.
>>>
>>>     Does that mean you don't want to use the Google Play store? If so,
>>> just get the APK from a reliable source (I use apkpure.com).
>>>
>>
>> I want to run Netflix and such but I do not what
>> the constant Google telemetry spying that comes
>> build into to Android.
> 
>    Then why do you want Android, i.e. what kind of Android apps do you
> want to run?
> 
>    And why do you want Linux?
> 
>    I.e. tell us a bit more about what you want to do with the tablet and
> perhaps we can give some other suggestions.
> 
>    BTW, for Netflix, you could use small/cheap(ish) Windows tablet.
> 
>    BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps
> and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want,
> so there's little/nothing for Google to spy.
> 

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#55564

On 09/04/2018 10:39 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    Then why do you want Android, i.e. what kind of Android apps do you
> want to run?

Netflix, Writer, Viki, Drama Fever, Amazon reader, Firefox, Blue Mail,
etc..

>    And why do you want Linux?

Open source.  No spying (telemetry)

>    I.e. tell us a bit more about what you want to do with the tablet and
> perhaps we can give some other suggestions.

See above

>    BTW, for Netflix, you could use small/cheap(ish) Windows tablet.

YIKES!!!!  Windows!!!!  I wish to avoid Windows.

>    BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps
> and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want,
> so there's little/nothing for Google to spy.

Google apps send back tons of telemetry.  And Android 6
is constantly popping up crap to download from Google.

I am looking at something like Sailfish (linux for Tablets
that lets you run Android apps), but Sailfish is having issues.

Maybe an Android tablet that is deliberately missing
all of Google's mischief?

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#55574

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 09/04/2018 10:39 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    Then why do you want Android, i.e. what kind of Android apps do you
> > want to run?
> 
> Netflix, Writer, Viki, Drama Fever, Amazon reader, Firefox, Blue Mail,
> etc..

  Netflix and Firefox run on all platforms and I assume that there are
alternatives for the others. May be, just may be,  you really *need*
some Android apps, but I doubt it.

  FWIW, I have an Android tablet because I wanted to see if it could act
as a replacement for my (Windows) laptop for our extended (several
months at a time) travels. It couldn't, so I'm still taking my laptop.
So *I* do not need any Android app (on a tablet).

> >    And why do you want Linux?
> 
> Open source.  No spying (telemetry)
> 
> >    I.e. tell us a bit more about what you want to do with the tablet and
> > perhaps we can give some other suggestions.
> 
> See above
> 
> >    BTW, for Netflix, you could use small/cheap(ish) Windows tablet.
> 
> YIKES!!!!  Windows!!!!  I wish to avoid Windows.

  Aren't you the same 'T' as in the Windows newsgroups?

> >    BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps
> > and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want,
> > so there's little/nothing for Google to spy.
> 
> Google apps send back tons of telemetry.  And Android 6
> is constantly popping up crap to download from Google.

  I said 'Android apps', not 'Google Apps', i.e. apps written for use on
Android, not apps written *by Google*.

  "constantly popping up crap to download from Google" is rather vague,
but if you mean that the (Google) Play Store app is doing that, then
disable updates or disable the Play Store app altogether.

> I am looking at something like Sailfish (linux for Tablets
> that lets you run Android apps), but Sailfish is having issues.
> 
> Maybe an Android tablet that is deliberately missing
> all of Google's mischief?

  You can just disable all the Google apps.

  Bottom line: Use an Android tablet, disable or uninstall all the
Google stuff - including the Play Store and - as I said before -, get
(the APKs of) your apps from an alternative source (such as apkpure.com)
so you don't need a Google account.

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#55583

On 9/6/2018 6:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> I have an Android tablet because I wanted to see if it could act as a
> replacement for my (Windows) laptop for our extended (several months
> at a time) travels. It couldn't, so I'm still taking my laptop.

Why not take both along. I take a 10" W10 tablet AND a 10" Android
tablet on trips. Together they take about the same room in my suitcase
as my 14" LT would.

> So *I* do not need any Android app (on > a tablet).

While I don't NEED any Android apps I likewise don't NEED any W10 apps.
Most operations I NEED or WANT can be done on either OS. But each OS has
its advantages depending on what you want to do so it's nice to have
both available.

BTW My Android tablet is modified so I have access to and use Android
apps from BOTH the Amazon and Google stores. Choice in UNNEEDED apps is
good... ;)

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#55584

123456789 <123456@123456.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2018 6:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> > I have an Android tablet because I wanted to see if it could act as a
> > replacement for my (Windows) laptop for our extended (several months
> > at a time) travels. It couldn't, so I'm still taking my laptop.
> 
> Why not take both along. I take a 10" W10 tablet AND a 10" Android
> tablet on trips. Together they take about the same room in my suitcase
> as my 14" LT would.

  Yes, I take both laptop and tablet along. Now I have it, it would be
silly not to take the tablet and I *do* use it for something the laptop
'cannot' do, navigation. My navigator uses the tablet for a larger view,
zooming, panning, etc. and I use the same app on a smartphone to see
where the <hot_place>, I'm going! :-)

> > So *I* do not need any Android app (on > a tablet).
> 
> While I don't NEED any Android apps I likewise don't NEED any W10 apps.

  'W10 apps'!? Go wash your mouth, boy! :-) But assuming you do not only
mean Metro/MDL-style apps, but also grown-up Windows programs, I *do*
need some - but not many - Windows programs when travelling.

> Most operations I NEED or WANT can be done on either OS. But each OS has
> its advantages depending on what you want to do so it's nice to have
> both available.
> 
> BTW My Android tablet is modified so I have access to and use Android
> apps from BOTH the Amazon and Google stores. Choice in UNNEEDED apps is
> good... ;)

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#55593

On 9/6/2018 11:09 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 123456789 <123456@123456.com> wrote:

> I take both laptop and tablet along. Now I have it, it would be
> silly not to take the tablet and I *do* use it for something the
> laptop 'cannot' do, navigation.

My Android tablet does not have GPS capability but no matter since it
stays in the suitcase when traveling.

> My navigator uses the tablet for a larger view, zooming, panning,
> etc.

My navigator mostly reads romance novels on her tablet...  :-/

> and I use the same app on a smartphone to see where the <hot_place>,
> I'm going! :-)

I let my (or her) phone talk me along.

>> While I don't NEED any Android apps I likewise don't NEED any W10
>> apps.

> 'W10 apps'!? Go wash your mouth, boy! :-)

We had a discussion (argument?) here not too long ago about the meaning
of apps/applications/programs. But for W10 I agree that differentiating
programs from apps is helpful.

> I *do* need some - but not many - Windows programs when travelling.

My W10 10" tablet has a keyboard/touchpad case which is good because I
mostly use it as a netbook (remember those?). Many W10 programs (not W10
apps) display very tiny icons that are hard to touch. Probably because
they were never designed to be used on a small touch screen.

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#55616

On 09/06/2018 06:35 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> We had a discussion (argument?) here not too long ago about the meaning
> of apps/applications/programs. But for W10 I agree that differentiating
> programs from apps is helpful.

I write in Perl a lot.  There is always the endless discussion
as to whether it is a script or a program.  To me when I hit a
certain number of lines, it is a program.

I call those silly tile apps in W10 "apps" or "tablet apps", but
I hate them, so...

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#55640

On 9/7/2018 2:59 PM, T wrote:

> On 09/06/2018 06:35 PM, 123456789 wrote:

>> We had a discussion (argument?) here not too long ago about the
>> meaning of apps/applications/programs. But for W10 I agree that
>> differentiating programs from apps is helpful.

> I call those silly tile apps in W10 "apps" or "tablet apps",

In W10, when you hit the Windows key, the big things you see are called
TILES and the little things are called APPS. At least that's what they
call them in Settings > Personalization > Start. There you will find
switches for "Show more TILES on Start" and "Show APP list in Start
menu". Sooooo, TILES are apparently just big buttons to to push to start
selected PROGRAMS and APPS.

However... When I install a PROGRAM like this Thunderbird reader I'm
using from a downloaded .exe file it ends up on the start menu APP list.

> but I hate them, so...

Why? APPS from the Microsoft store work about the same as downloaded
.exe PROGRAMS. They open in a normal window, can be put on the taskbar,
and show up on the Start menu. And... those APPS and PROGRAMS can be
persuaded to become TILES... 8-O

Anybody else wanna comment on the apps/applications/program controversy?
You'll be sorry...

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#55594

On 9/6/2018 6:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    FWIW, I have an Android tablet because I wanted to see if it could act
> as a replacement for my (Windows) laptop for our extended (several
> months at a time) travels. It couldn't, so I'm still taking my laptop.
> So *I* do not need any Android app (on a tablet).

I find that my iPad Pr0 10.5 LTE, combined with a keyboard and the Apple 
Pencil are great for traveling. But before I had the employer provided 
iPad Pro, I used my 8" LG Tablet with a Bluetooth keyboard, and a mouse 
(either wired or Bluetooth) and that was fine for traveling as well. But 
never for months at a time.

I'm not laying out printed circuit boards or running schematic capture 
on the tablets, but for e-mail, web, navigation, photos, and 
entertainment it works just fine and is much lighter than a laptop. The 
one thing I miss with the iPad Pro, when using it as a laptop 
replacement, is a mouse. The pencil is okay, but can be cumbersome. 
Android tablets support a mouse.

The key thing with any tablet, iOS or Android, if being used for travel, 
is to ensure that it has a GPS. The non-LTE iPads don't have a GPS but 
you can use an external Bluetooth GPS puck with them. Most Wi-Fi Android 
tablets, other than the el-cheapo drugstore Android tablets have a GPS 
and can be used for navigation which is very valuable when traveling. I 
suppose if I had a very large screen phone, it would serve as a suitable 
GPS as well, but it sure is nice to have a large screen for navigation.

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#55614

On 09/06/2018 06:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 09/04/2018 10:39 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    Netflix and Firefox run on all platforms 

Actually, Netflix does not run on Linux.  It is a digital
rights issue.  Netflix won't fix it.


>    Aren't you the same 'T' as in the Windows newsgroups?

Yes.  90% of my work comes from Windows.

>> Google apps send back tons of telemetry.  And Android 6
>> is constantly popping up crap to download from Google.
> 
>    I said 'Android apps', not 'Google Apps', i.e. apps written for use on
> Android, not apps written *by Google*.

I meant the apps written by Google.,  I don't see your point.


>> Maybe an Android tablet that is deliberately missing
>> all of Google's mischief?

 >    You can just disable all the Google apps.
 >

That only works to an extent.  My wife is still
getting suggestions from google as to their crap to download

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#55625

[Please don't snip parts of the context, while keeping other parts of
the same context. It makes it hard/impossible to have a sensible
discussion.]

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 09/06/2018 06:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 09/04/2018 10:39 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    Netflix and Firefox run on all platforms 
> 
> Actually, Netflix does not run on Linux.  It is a digital
> rights issue.  Netflix won't fix it.

  Huh? You mean that Netflix doesn't have a dedicated app/program for
Linux (like it has for iOS, Android and Windows 10)? But why can't you
use Netflix in a webbrowser on Linux, i.e. like one would for any other
computer?

> >    Aren't you the same 'T' as in the Windows newsgroups?
> 
> Yes.  90% of my work comes from Windows.

  So as I said - and you snipped - "BTW, for Netflix, you could use
small/cheap(ish) Windows tablet". Surely *you* can make Windows behave,
i.e. not let Microsoft spy on you, can't you!?

> >> Google apps send back tons of telemetry.  And Android 6
> >> is constantly popping up crap to download from Google.
> > 
> >    I said 'Android apps', not 'Google Apps', i.e. apps written for use on
> > Android, not apps written *by Google*.
> 
> I meant the apps written by Google.,  I don't see your point.

  Crossed wires. I mean that if you don't want Google to spy on you, you
obviously shouldn't run any apps written *by* Google *for* Android. But
you can still use apps for Android (i.e. 'Android apps') which are *not*
written by Google.

> >> Maybe an Android tablet that is deliberately missing
> >> all of Google's mischief?
> 
>  >    You can just disable all the Google apps.
> 
> That only works to an extent.  My wife is still
> getting suggestions from google as to their crap to download

  That why I said - and you snipped -:

> >   "constantly popping up crap to download from Google" is rather
> > vague, but if you mean that the (Google) Play Store app is doing
> > that, then disable updates or disable the Play Store app altogether.

  If the "suggestions from google as to their crap to download" do *not*
come from the (Google) Play Store app, then give a specific, literal
example, preferably a screenshot.

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#55628

On 9/8/2018 9:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> why can't you [T] use Netflix in a webbrowser on Linux, i.e. like
> one would for any other computer?

In Windows 10 I actually like watching Netflix better in a BROWSER than
in the W10 Netflix APP. It has (IMO) a better preview feature. But I
digress. Netflix also keeps records on everything watched... 8-O

> Surely *you* [T] can make Windows behave, i.e. not let Microsoft spy
>  on you, can't you!?

In Windows 10 Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics you'll find: "Choose how
much data to send to Microsoft" under which you have two choices: BASIC
or FULL. There is no NONE. It is SUPPOSED to be only diagnostic and can
SUPPOSEDLY be deleted. Perhaps it can be defeated by using a local
account? But for the truly paranoid who knows...

> if you [T] don't want Google to spy on you, you obviously shouldn't 
> run any apps written *by* Google *for* Android. But you can still use
> apps for Android (i.e. 'Android apps') which are *not* written by
> Google.

Some (many?) non-Google apps also spy on you. One really has little
control. Perhaps paying cash for magazines, books, newspapers and DVDs
is the answer. No wait there are all those security cameras watching...
Aghhhhhhhhhhh...  ;)

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#55630

123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:
> On 9/8/2018 9:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> > why can't you [T] use Netflix in a webbrowser on Linux, i.e. like
> > one would for any other computer?
> 
> In Windows 10 I actually like watching Netflix better in a BROWSER than
> in the W10 Netflix APP. It has (IMO) a better preview feature. But I
> digress. Netflix also keeps records on everything watched... 8-O
> 
> > Surely *you* [T] can make Windows behave, i.e. not let Microsoft spy
> >  on you, can't you!?
> 
> In Windows 10 Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics you'll find: "Choose how
> much data to send to Microsoft" under which you have two choices: BASIC
> or FULL. There is no NONE. It is SUPPOSED to be only diagnostic and can
> SUPPOSEDLY be deleted. Perhaps it can be defeated by using a local
> account? But for the truly paranoid who knows...

  I indeed use a local account and - for Windows 8.1 - set all the
Microsoft related 'send info' settings - some ten in total - to Off.

  As to Windows 10: I really should cut down on my use of faul language,
so I won't comment! :-)

[...]

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#55635

On 9/8/2018 12:18 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:

>> In Windows 10 Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics you'll find: "Choose
>> how much data to send to Microsoft" under which you have two
>> choices: BASIC or FULL. There is no NONE. It is SUPPOSED to be only
>> diagnostic and can SUPPOSEDLY be deleted. Perhaps it can be 
>> defeated by using a local account? But for the truly paranoid who 
>> knows...

> I indeed use a local account and - for Windows 8.1 - set all the 
> Microsoft related 'send info' settings - some ten in total - to Off.

"Just Like Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 Also Spy on You..."

"Microsoft has been caught installing latest updates onto Windows 7 and
Windows 8 computers that effectively introduce the same data collecting
and user behavior tracking features used in Windows 10."

Hopefully you don't have these updates installed. But if so they are
removable.

https://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-spying-on-you.html

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#55656

123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:
> On 9/8/2018 12:18 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:
> 
> >> In Windows 10 Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics you'll find: "Choose
> >> how much data to send to Microsoft" under which you have two
> >> choices: BASIC or FULL. There is no NONE. It is SUPPOSED to be only
> >> diagnostic and can SUPPOSEDLY be deleted. Perhaps it can be 
> >> defeated by using a local account? But for the truly paranoid who 
> >> knows...
> 
> > I indeed use a local account and - for Windows 8.1 - set all the 
> > Microsoft related 'send info' settings - some ten in total - to Off.
> 
> "Just Like Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 Also Spy on You..."
> 
> "Microsoft has been caught installing latest updates onto Windows 7 and
> Windows 8 computers that effectively introduce the same data collecting
> and user behavior tracking features used in Windows 10."
> 
> Hopefully you don't have these updates installed. But if so they are
> removable.
> 
> https://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-spying-on-you.html

  Thanks for that!

  The bastards! Each and every one of these updates was listed as

"Update for Windows 8.1 for x64-based Systems (KB...)"

by Windows Update. So that means you'll have to go to each and every one
of the KB articles to see what stunt Microsoft is pulling this time!

  BTW, does anyone know what the 'çonsent.exe' program does, which is
mentioned in KB 3075249?

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3075249/update-that-adds-telemetry-points-to-consent-exe-in-windows-8-1-and-wi>

"This article describes an update that adds telemetry points to
 consent.exe in Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2,
 Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1." 

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#55660

On 9/9/2018 8:05 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>> "Just Like Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 Also Spy on You..."
>> 
>> "Microsoft has been caught installing latest updates onto Windows 7
>> and Windows 8 computers that effectively introduce the same data
>> collecting and user behavior tracking features used in Windows
>> 10."
>> 
>> Hopefully you don't have these updates installed. But if so they
>> are removable.
>> 
>> https://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-spying-on-you.html
> 
> Thanks for that!
> 
> The bastards! Each and every one of these updates was listed as
> 
> "Update for Windows 8.1 for x64-based Systems (KB...)"
> 
> by Windows Update. So that means you'll have to go to each and every
> one of the KB articles to see what stunt Microsoft is pulling this
> time!

Consider yourself lucky. APPARENTLY you can uninstall the spy updates.
Not so for me and W10.

But in reality since I have used Google products for years, and my cars
electronics both tracks me and makes a record of my moves (black boxes),
and Target (and others) track my WiFi around the store, and my credit
card companies know my purchases, and my cable company has my TV viewing
records/phone records/internet records, and my cell company has my cell
phone records/location records, and my financial institutions (and Uncle
Sam) know my financial life...trying to stop giving MS a little 
"diagnostic" data seems a bit futile... ;)

> BTW, does anyone know what the 'çonsent.exe' program does, which is 
> mentioned in KB 3075249?

I don't have a clue but since this thread is only being posted to an
Android group, I'd suggest posting your question in the Windows groups.

> <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3075249/update-that-adds-telemetry-points-to-consent-exe-in-windows-8-1-and-wi>
>
>  "This article describes an update that adds telemetry points to 
> consent.exe in Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, 
> Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1."
> 

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#55701

On 09/08/2018 12:18 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:
>> On 9/8/2018 9:04 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>
>>> why can't you [T] use Netflix in a webbrowser on Linux, i.e. like
>>> one would for any other computer?
>>
>> In Windows 10 I actually like watching Netflix better in a BROWSER than
>> in the W10 Netflix APP. It has (IMO) a better preview feature. But I
>> digress. Netflix also keeps records on everything watched... 8-O
>>
>>> Surely *you* [T] can make Windows behave, i.e. not let Microsoft spy
>>>   on you, can't you!?
>>
>> In Windows 10 Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics you'll find: "Choose how
>> much data to send to Microsoft" under which you have two choices: BASIC
>> or FULL. There is no NONE. It is SUPPOSED to be only diagnostic and can
>> SUPPOSEDLY be deleted. Perhaps it can be defeated by using a local
>> account? But for the truly paranoid who knows...
> 
>    I indeed use a local account and - for Windows 8.1 - set all the
> Microsoft related 'send info' settings - some ten in total - to Off.
> 
>    As to Windows 10: I really should cut down on my use of faul language,
> so I won't comment! :-)

1+

I put this on a lot of angry customers Windows 10 systems:

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

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#55633

In article <pn12mq.308.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> > >> Google apps send back tons of telemetry.  And Android 6
> > >> is constantly popping up crap to download from Google.
> > > 
> > >    I said 'Android apps', not 'Google Apps', i.e. apps written for use on
> > > Android, not apps written *by Google*.
> > 
> > I meant the apps written by Google.,  I don't see your point.
> 
>   Crossed wires. I mean that if you don't want Google to spy on you, you
> obviously shouldn't run any apps written *by* Google *for* Android. But
> you can still use apps for Android (i.e. 'Android apps') which are *not*
> written by Google.

that does not insulate someone from google's tracking.

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#55467

T <T@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
> Hi All,
> 
>     Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run
> Android apps?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T
> 

Are not all Android tablets the Linux tablets in the first place?

Is not the best way to run Android apps on Linux platform
To have there the Android layer as every Android device have ?

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