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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | talk.politics.guns, misc.survivalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.economics, alt.philosophy, alt.politics.usa.constitution |
| Subject | Re: Who pays for Illegals? |
| Date | 2019-01-21 14:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <gamrcbFijt9U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <q24she$3vb$1@dont-email.me> <gamfreFg3utU1@mid.individual.net> <bu1n76.dnc.17.4@news.alt.net> <gamgrvFga6tU1@mid.individual.net> <bu1ojf.201.19.1@news.alt.net> |
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On 1/21/19 11:29 AM, % wrote: > On 2019-01-21 11:20 a.m., Snit wrote: >> On 1/21/19 11:05 AM, % wrote: >>> On 2019-01-21 11:03 a.m., Snit wrote: >>>> jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> wrote: >>>>> Snit wrote on 1/21/2019 9:49 AM: >>>>>> jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> Half that amount is not and never was employee wages. It's >>>>>>>>> a tax burden on the employer, not the employee. >>>>>>>> So if you tax the company it is not a cost for the employee... >>>>>>>> or, by >>>>>>>> extension, the customer. >>>>>>> The analogy you are trying to make is bogus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are talking about a tax that has nothing to do with >>>>>>> the employers income, It is specifically tied to >>>>>>> the employees wage and nothing else. >>>>> >>>>>> If paying more for labor has nothing to do with the employer >>>>>> income then >>>>>> raise the minimum wage. >>>>> >>>>> What nonsense. >>>> >>>> My point exactly. Thanks. It is nonsense to suggest wage has NOTHING >>>> to do >>>> with net profit. >>>> >>>>> If the congress changed the law so >>>>> that the tax was all shifted so that it appeared on >>>>> workers pay check, it would not cost the employer (or employee) >>>>> one penny more. It would also simplify the bookkeeping >>>>> for the employer. >>>>> The same amount of tax would be sent >>>>> to the IRS but it would be crystal clear even to the >>>>> dullest minds that this is a tax on wages and not >>>>> a tax on the employer. The only purpose of the >>>>> current law that splits it into two arbitrary parts is to >>>>> introduce that confusion. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If we stopped subsidizing labor the employer would pay more in labor >>>> and we >>>> all — including the employer — would pay less in taxes. But the >>>> employer >>>> overall would pay more and the employees overall would get more of what >>>> they earn. >>>> >>>> And that would lead to a better economy. >>>> >>>> >>> did you snit >> >> I always Snit. >> > how come you stopped answering me What did you ask? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 16:31 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 15:49 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 17:37 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 17:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:37 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 21:12 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 22:17 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 06:36 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-21 02:04 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 09:10 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-22 04:20 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 07:42 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:49 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:38 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:05 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 11:20 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:29 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 14:20 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:23 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 06:23 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 12:54 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:23 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 16:43 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:21 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 09:28 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 11:06 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 14:07 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:51 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 19:29 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:46 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:33 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:54 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:39 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:48 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:44 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:23 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:04 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:36 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-25 00:55 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 19:22 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:52 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:00 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:29 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:48 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 19:32 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:30 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:47 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 21:50 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 22:49 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:01 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:43 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 12:35 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:47 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:23 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 17:24 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-24 17:02 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:03 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:26 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:47 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:32 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:27 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 07:59 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:06 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:29 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:45 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:13 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 13:48 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:52 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:54 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:06 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:53 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 09:02 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:25 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 16:20 -0500
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:04 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:18 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:34 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:40 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 21:34 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 20:08 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 06:14 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 08:01 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 11:15 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 10:19 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 13:49 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 07:44 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 12:11 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 11:25 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 14:12 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 19:49 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-28 08:27 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 07:40 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-28 08:21 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2019-01-27 12:41 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-28 07:20 -0500
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2019-01-28 07:58 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-27 09:38 -0500
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2019-01-26 14:47 -0500
Who's taxes pay for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 17:19 -0500
Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 15:23 -0700
Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-26 21:04 +0000
Who's taxes pay for Illegal aliens and incompetent Democrat run businesses? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-26 14:06 -0500
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 15:22 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 09:46 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:52 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 14:38 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:48 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-23 21:55 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:56 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-24 03:07 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 06:37 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:46 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:58 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:22 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 16:05 +0000
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 09:30 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:33 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:41 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 12:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 12:42 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:13 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:56 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:33 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:59 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:08 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:17 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:12 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:35 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:45 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 10:50 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 15:58 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 16:10 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 17:16 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 16:40 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 17:28 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:45 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:16 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:28 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:37 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:45 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:25 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:37 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:47 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:13 -0600
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:34 -0800
Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:46 -0700
Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:50 -0600
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