Re: Who pays for Illegals?

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	talk.politics.guns, misc.survivalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.economics, alt.philosophy, alt.politics.usa.constitution
Subject	Re: Who pays for Illegals?
Date	2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
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jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> wrote:
> Snit wrote on 1/21/2019 9:49 AM:
>> jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>> Half that amount is not and never was employee wages.  It's
>>>>> a tax burden on the employer, not the employee.
>>>> So if you tax the company it is not a cost for the employee... or, by
>>>> extension, the customer.
>>> The analogy you are trying to make is bogus
>>> 
>>> We are talking about a tax that has nothing to do with
>>> the employers income, It is specifically tied to
>>> the employees wage and nothing else.
> 
>> If paying more for labor has nothing to do with the employer income then
>> raise the minimum wage.
> 
> What nonsense. 

My point exactly. Thanks. It is nonsense to suggest wage has NOTHING to do
with net profit. 

> If the congress changed the law so
> that the tax was all shifted so that it appeared on
> workers pay check, it would not cost the employer (or employee)
> one penny more.  It would also simplify the bookkeeping
> for the employer.
> The same amount of tax would be sent
> to the IRS but it would be crystal clear even to the
> dullest minds that this is a tax on wages and not
> a tax on the employer. The only purpose of the
> current law that splits it into two arbitrary parts is to
>  introduce that confusion.
> 

If we stopped subsidizing labor the employer would pay more in labor and we
all — including the employer — would pay less in taxes. But the employer
overall would pay more and the employees overall would get more of what
they earn. 

And that would lead to a better economy.

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Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 15:08 -0800
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 18:28 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-09 17:40 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-09 18:00 -0800
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:21 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 19:55 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:03 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:22 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 09:43 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:30 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-10 06:38 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:37 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-12 04:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:27 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:27 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:03 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:29 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-18 17:07 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 18:53 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:58 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 19:15 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 20:19 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 20:06 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:34 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:51 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-10 00:28 -0500
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:54 +0000
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:38 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:54 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:36 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:25 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:05 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:27 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-11 22:16 -0500
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 06:44 +0000
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 19:53 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:03 +0000
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:39 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:47 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:37 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:23 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:06 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:56 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2019-01-12 17:53 +0000
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 18:41 +0000
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-12 10:49 -0800
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 16:31 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 15:49 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 17:37 -0600
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 17:03 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:37 -0600
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 21:12 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 22:17 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 06:36 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-21 02:04 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 09:10 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-22 04:20 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 07:42 -0600
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:49 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:38 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 11:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:23 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 06:23 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 12:54 -0600
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:23 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 16:43 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:21 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 09:28 -0700
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 11:06 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 14:07 -0700

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