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Re: Who pays for Illegals?

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups talk.politics.guns, misc.survivalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.economics, alt.philosophy, alt.politics.usa.constitution
Subject Re: Who pays for Illegals?
Date 2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
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jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> wrote:
> Snit wrote on 1/21/2019 9:49 AM:
>> jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>> Half that amount is not and never was employee wages.  It's
>>>>> a tax burden on the employer, not the employee.
>>>> So if you tax the company it is not a cost for the employee... or, by
>>>> extension, the customer.
>>> The analogy you are trying to make is bogus
>>> 
>>> We are talking about a tax that has nothing to do with
>>> the employers income, It is specifically tied to
>>> the employees wage and nothing else.
> 
>> If paying more for labor has nothing to do with the employer income then
>> raise the minimum wage.
> 
> What nonsense. 

My point exactly. Thanks. It is nonsense to suggest wage has NOTHING to do
with net profit. 

> If the congress changed the law so
> that the tax was all shifted so that it appeared on
> workers pay check, it would not cost the employer (or employee)
> one penny more.  It would also simplify the bookkeeping
> for the employer.
> The same amount of tax would be sent
> to the IRS but it would be crystal clear even to the
> dullest minds that this is a tax on wages and not
> a tax on the employer. The only purpose of the
> current law that splits it into two arbitrary parts is to
>  introduce that confusion.
> 

If we stopped subsidizing labor the employer would pay more in labor and we
all — including the employer — would pay less in taxes. But the employer
overall would pay more and the employees overall would get more of what
they earn. 

And that would lead to a better economy.

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Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 16:31 -0600
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 15:49 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 17:37 -0600
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 17:03 -0700
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:37 -0600
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 21:12 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 22:17 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 06:36 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-21 02:04 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 09:10 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-22 04:20 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 07:42 -0600
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:49 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:38 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 11:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:23 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 06:23 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 12:54 -0600
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:23 -0600
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 16:43 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:21 -0600
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0800
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 09:28 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 11:06 -0800
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 14:07 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:51 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 19:29 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:46 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:33 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:54 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:39 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:48 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:44 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:23 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:04 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:36 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-25 00:55 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 19:22 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:00 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:29 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:48 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 19:32 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:30 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:47 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 21:50 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 22:49 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:01 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:43 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 12:35 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:47 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:23 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 17:24 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-24 17:02 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:03 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:26 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:32 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:27 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 07:59 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:06 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:29 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:45 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:13 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 13:48 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:54 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:06 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:53 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 09:02 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:25 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 16:20 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:04 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:18 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:34 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:40 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 21:34 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 20:08 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 06:14 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 08:01 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 11:15 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 10:19 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 13:49 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 07:44 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 12:11 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 11:25 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 14:12 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 19:49 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-28 08:27 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 07:40 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-28 08:21 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2019-01-27 12:41 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-28 07:20 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2019-01-28 07:58 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-27 09:38 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2019-01-26 14:47 -0500
                Who's taxes pay for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 17:19 -0500
                Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 15:23 -0700
                Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-26 21:04 +0000
                Who's taxes pay for Illegal aliens and incompetent Democrat run businesses? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-26 14:06 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 15:22 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 09:46 -0600
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:52 -0800
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 14:38 -0600
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:48 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-23 21:55 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-24 03:07 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 06:37 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:46 -0600
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:58 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:22 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 16:05 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 09:30 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:41 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 12:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 12:42 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:13 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:59 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:08 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:17 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:12 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:35 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:45 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 10:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 15:58 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 16:10 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 17:16 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 16:40 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 17:28 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:45 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:16 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:28 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:37 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:45 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:25 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:37 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:13 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:34 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:46 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:50 -0600

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