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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds |
| Date | 2026-04-07 09:34 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.3nds39c7byq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <n3e6hkFc0m9U2@mid.individual.net> <n3eupnFfec4U7@mid.individual.net> <69d2dcef@news.ausics.net> <op.3nbu8z15byq249@pvr2.lan> <69d43583@news.ausics.net> |
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>> Axel <none@not.here> wrote >>>> keithr0 wrote >>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/research-finds-ai-users-scarily- >>>>>>>> willing-to-surrender-their-cognition-to-llms/ >>>>>>> Not surprising at all. It's much the same as all the stories about >>>>>>> people getting stuck somewhere because they blindly followed their >>>>>>> satnav. I'm frequently bewildered by how willing people are to >>>>>>> offload often important decisions to some perceived authority with >>>>>>> known failings or ulterior motives, but of course politics and >>>>>>> religion are based on exactly that common willingness. Such AIs >>>>>>> have all the potential to join those as a new major social power. >>>>>> Just like you do with google >>>>> Google simply points you to places where information exists. Usually >>>>> there are several, you can read and assess the source material, >>>>> instead of just getting a summary usually without attribution >>>> Google AI gives the sources >>> I already showed you where it didn't give me any sources >> Depends on how you invoke it, it does with Gemini > Nope Yep https://g.co/gemini/share/0d063966763e > Gemini gave me lots of sources for paintings after > misinterpreting my question about "Winter Landscape" by Josef Jahn, > as I posted here earlier. No you didnt > Then when I followed up with more > specific questions noting "Winter Landscape" was a tracker module > its answers didn't include any sources anymore So you lied about no sources > and it started making things up. More of your lies > Doing a web search with the same prompt brought > up irrelevent Wikipedia pages which it was clearly pulling info > from. So a google search would have failed too > Wikipedia isn't a highly trustworthy source Have fun listing anything that is > even when the pages are_ relevent, More of your mindless bullshit > but clearly its content is weighted highly by the AI algorithm. Its actually weighted by who modifys the page > As I pointed out before, a specific search at The Mod Archive > brought up the correct information easily, so it was out there on > the web. Also on the artist's dead website in the Internet Archive. > But if you trusted Gemini you'd believe its lies instead of finding > the true info yourself. You don't have to trust, you are free to check the sources it provides, just like with a google search, but with far less farting around
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 08:59 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:22 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:17 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 16:50 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-04-06 11:38 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-07 08:36 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-06 13:31 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-04-06 14:35 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 15:48 +1000
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