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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds
Date 2026-04-07 16:50 +1000
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keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Axel <none@not.here> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/research-finds-ai-users-  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scarily-willing-to-surrender-their-cognition-to-llms/

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not surprising at all. It's much the same as all the stories  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people getting stuck somewhere because they blindly followed  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> satnav. I'm frequently bewildered by how willing people are  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> offload often important decisions to some perceived  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> known failings or ulterior motives, but of course politics  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion are based on exactly that common willingness. Such  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have all the potential to join those as a new major social  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> power.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like you do with google

>>>>>>>>>>> Google simply points you to places where information exists.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Usually
>>>>>>>>>>> there are several, you can read and assess the source material,
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of just getting a summary usually without attribution

>>>>>>>>>> Google AI gives the sources

>>>>>>>>> I already showed you where it didn't give me any sources

>>>>>>>>  Depends on how you invoke it, it does with Gemini

>>>>>>>>> and told me a pack of (changing) lies

>>>>>>>> You did nothing of the sort

>>>>>>>>> wrapped up in convincing waffle.

>>>>>>>> You did nothing of the sort

>>>>>>>>> In fact comparing with web search results it was pretty obvious  
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> of the info had come from Wikipedia pages that no human would  
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> considered relevent, and not showing sources served to hide that.

>>>>>>>>  It does show sources when you invoke it properly

>>>>>>>>> You didn't respond to me then, and now I see you just ignored me
>>>>>>>>> because the information didn't come from one of your Artificial
>>>>>>>>> Idiots.

>>>>>>>>  More of your mindless bullshit

>>>>>>>>> You are presenting yourself as prime example of someone
>>>>>>>>> "willing to surrender their cognition to LLMs".

>>>>>>>>  More of your mindless bullshit

>>>>>>>>  And you do precisely that with google searches

>>>>>>> Completely different,

>>>>>>  But still "willing to surrender their cognition to LLMs"

>>>>>>> Google search, just gives pointersto where the   information may  
>>>>>>> be.

>>>>>> That's bullshit too when you have already decided
>>>>>> that wikipedia is a good efficient source of data on
>>>>>> lots of thing except for data on people who aren't

>>>>>> considered important enough to have their own page

>>>>> You may think that, I don't.

>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of
>>>> what a terminal fuckwit you have always been

>>> No answer then roddles.

>>  More of your mindless bullshit, fuckwit pom

> Q.E.D.

More of your mindless bullshit, fuckwit pom

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    Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 08:59 +1000
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        Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 15:36 +1000
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                Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 08:52 +1000
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                Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:26 +1000
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                Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:17 +1000
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                Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 16:50 +1000
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                Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 15:48 +1000
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