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| From | keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds |
| Date | 2026-04-07 15:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <n3jiulF7661U4@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <n3gd84FmbtlU2@mid.individual.net> <n3gnjcFo2tpU1@mid.individual.net> <n3grdmFoo29U1@mid.individual.net> <n3hkcjFs2pvU5@mid.individual.net> <op.3ndbr7lxbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
On 7/04/2026 3:20 am, Rod Speed wrote: > keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote >> Axel wrote >>> keithr0 wrote >>>> Axel wrote >>>>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote >>>>>> Axel <none@not.here> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/research-finds-ai-users- >>>>>>>>>>>> scarily-willing-to-surrender-their-cognition-to-llms/ > >>>>>>>>>>> Not surprising at all. It's much the same as all the stories >>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>> people getting stuck somewhere because they blindly followed >>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>> satnav. I'm frequently bewildered by how willing people are to >>>>>>>>>>> offload often important decisions to some perceived authority >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> known failings or ulterior motives, but of course politics and >>>>>>>>>>> religion are based on exactly that common willingness. Such AIs >>>>>>>>>>> have all the potential to join those as a new major social >>>>>>>>>>> power. > >>>>>>>>>> Just like you do with google > >>>>>>>>> Google simply points you to places where information exists. >>>>>>>> But the problem is working out what is ignorant shit and what isnt >>>>>>> and AI does that to a large extent > >>>>>> Yet you keep posting where it just waffles BS instead. Petzl's >>>>>> didn't even figure out where the data in the article he was asking >>>>>> it to verify had come from (and somehow he still seemed to think it >>>>>> was useful). What you're doing is exactly what the article is >>>>>> talking about - deferring to a false authority rather than deciding >>>>>> for yourself. > >>>>> if I can get an answer in seconds to question I want or need >>>>> answered, I consider that far preferable to endless googling to try >>>>> to find the answer myself. If I have any doubt about the veracity >>>>> of the AI answer, I can always check for myself. > >>>>>> In fact the AI's responses are no more authoritative >>>>>> than the authors of random webpages, > >>>>> AI answers are more authoritative than those from authors of random >>>>> webpages since they're based on the research the AI does to answer >>>>> the query. answers from 'random webpages' rely on the knowledge, >>>>> and/or depth of research, of the author and their honesty, and lack >>>>> of agenda or bias. >> >>>> Where do you think that "AI" gets it's answers from? Clue - random >>>> webpages > >>> yes but not just one. it creates it's response from multiple >>> sources, so it needs to find many websites saying the same thing to >>> know it's giving the right answer. > >> you really think so? > > We really know so Depends on whether you get an accurate answer, or, in the case you quoted, an answer at all. > No way to get accurate answers any other way > >>>>>> but it tries to tell you what >>>>>> you want to hear, > >>>>> no it doesn't. it will tell you if what you're saying is wrong, or >>>>> if something is true or not. I find it a very useful and time >>>>> saving tool to answer simple questions. many questions just need >>>>> confirmation or denial, a yes or no answer, or simply stating some >>>>> fact. however, no doubt the accuracy of answers would probably >>>>> depend on the complexity of the question. > >>>>>> which appears to be all you really care about > >>>>> no I want a truthful answer > >>>>>> (and definitely all that Rod Speed cares about).
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 08:59 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 01:55 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:22 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-06 08:22 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:26 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-06 13:30 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 15:45 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-06 21:38 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:17 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-07 15:29 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 16:50 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-04-06 11:38 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-07 08:36 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-04-06 10:52 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-06 13:31 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-04-06 14:35 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 15:48 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> - 2026-04-06 21:37 +1000
Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:14 +1000
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Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 16:53 +1000
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