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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Date | 2023-11-02 07:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kqgvhvFbfdgU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am 01.11.2023 um 10:50 schrieb Paul B. Andersen: > Den 01.11.2023 07:03, skrev Thomas Heger: >> Am 31.10.2023 um 19:07 schrieb RichD: >>> On October 30, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> Am 29.10.2023 um 20:17 sc >>>> Sure, because the 'Fuehrer' was actually not Hitler. >>>> My assumption was, that Noel Trevenen Huxley posed as 'Fuehrer', while >>>> the Brits faked his suicide (to make his disapperance plausible). >>> >>> Look at: >>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579629/Did-Adolf-Hitler-draw-Disney-characters.html >>> >>> >>> Any fan of the Seven Dwarfs can't be wholly bad - >>> >>> PS Was Walt Disney maybe part of the conspiracy? >>> >> Possibly. >> >> >> Look at this picture again: >> >> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg/786px-Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg >> >> >> In the lower left corner we can see a rectangular object, which covers >> parts of Hitler's right leg and parts of the table cloth. >> >> As we can safely assume, that Hitler had a right leg, this something >> does in fact cover the sight to that leg, which is therefore only >> partially visible. >> >> What we do see instead is a shadowy female left hand, which hovers >> over/in front of that object. >> >> For this observation exists an explanation, which could possibly >> involve Disney studios. >> >> (I don't mean, that Disney was involved, but that such a possiblity >> would exist) >> >> My explanation for this rectangular object goes like this: >> >> If this photo was in fact a montage, we need to skip back in time to >> that era. >> >> This picture was made in 1923 (or nearby) and is therefor almost >> exactly 100 years old. >> >> The technology used in photomontage didn't use Photoshop(TM) or >> similar, because that era was long before the advent of computers. >> >> Instead 'photoshopping' was done in real: cutouts, spray-painting, >> razor erasing and so forth. >> >> And if you liked to cover a piece of a picture with unwanted details, >> you need to paint something directly on it or on an extra sheet of >> paper, which is possibly a photo itself. >> >> This sheet was placed upon an underlying picture and the entire >> montage was reproduced with a large specialised camera by a >> specialised and skilled operator. >> >> Now this woman (to which the shaddowy arm and hand belonged), was >> apparently small and untrained, but opperated a professional machine, >> like those used in animation studios. >> >> As she wanted to release the shutter of that reproduction camera, she >> placed her left hand on that cover sheet and pushed it, >> unintentionally, a little upwards, because she was leaning on her left >> hand, while adjusting the focus and releasing the shutter. >> >> (This would only be an assumption, but is consistent with the >> evidence, which is this particular photo.) >> >> From the size of the hand we can draw a conclusion about the size of >> the used machine, which had to be table-sized and belonged to the >> professional realm, that was used in animation studios. >> >> But apparently the makers of this picture were not skilled enough to >> keep their hand away from that table, were the montage rested while >> being photographed. >> >> So a female hand is vilible on a photograph from Landsberg prison >> (where it should not belong), which is also held in a very akward >> angle, supposed the person would sit in front of this set of people. >> >> But the angle would be consistent with a person leaning on a table >> with a montage, while doing something with the right hand (like e.g. >> releasing the shutter). >> >> >> TH >> > > Can you see the colour of the woman's eyes? > Her ethnicity is important! > No, not really, because that era didn't have color photography. The picture in question is therefore only black and white. The detail under consideration (something in the lower left corner) didn't contain the eyes, neither. So, no colors of any eyes are visible in this piece of evidence. Ethnicity of that person isn't of any importance here, thou possibly interesting. We need to skip these questions therefore, because the photos cannot answer them. But what we can actually do is this: ask ourself the question, how this hand came into the picture and what was actually depicted. Other assumptions are certainly also possible. E.g. the hand could have belonged to a waitress, who brought a tray with beaverages or a skript girl, who was holding a book. Actually I don't know. Eventually the girl with the make-up had her fingers in the picture. But female hands with a script or a waitress with drinks do not really belong to a prison for male inmates, anyhow. I personally like the idea with a montage, because Hitler and his comrades had no (or twisted) necks. So my own bet would be, that an untrained (young and female) user of a professional repro-camera forgot to remove the left hand from the montage-table, while taking a reproduction picture. But that is only a guess. TH
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