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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Date | 2023-11-03 18:07 +0100 |
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On 2023-11-03 16:07:51 +0000, Volney said: > On 11/3/2023 3:45 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 03.11.2023 um 06:06 schrieb Volney: >> >>>>>>> Look at this picture again: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg/786px-Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the lower left corner we can see a rectangular object, which covers >>>>>>> parts of Hitler's right leg and parts of the table cloth. >>>>>>> >> ... >>>>>>> This picture was made in 1923 (or nearby) and is therefor almost >>>>>>> exactly 100 years old. >>> >>> That picture was taken in January 1924. Hitler didn't go on trial for >>> the Putsch until February, 1924. So no prisons here. >> >> Interesting detail! > > Yes, and it rules out the idea it was taken in prison after his conviction. >> >> But if I 'google' for 'Hitler in Landsberg prison' this picture pops up >> tons of times. >> >> So, if it was photographed prior to his trial, then why it is all the >> time attributed to Landsberg prison? > > Do you even know how Google works? All that means is that articles > discussing Hitler's imprisonment, the Putsch or Hitler in general (such > as Wikipedia) also used that photograph, and since it was taken shortly > before the trial it was probably close to the text about imprisonment. > That's all it means. >> >> And where in fact was it taken instead and for what reason? > > I'm sure the reason was that Hitler and his buddies wanted a group > photograph. Where? I think it is very safe to say it was not in a > prison. Likely one of the homes of those in the photograph. >> >>> >>> And there is no woman's hand to be seen. >> >> Well, possibly the hand belonged to a male. >> I do not really insist on 'female', but the hand looks like a female >> hand for me. > > There is no hand, male or female, to be seen! Other than those seated > at the table, of course. >> >> Look carefully yourself and try to figure out, what that is, that was >> photographed in the lower left corner of the picture. > > It's blurry but appears to be a table or similar, with a blurry book on > the left and the corner of a sheet of paper or another book at the > bottom. >> >> To me it looks like the left hand of a (very!) stupid female operator >> of a professional reproduction camera, who unitentionally photographed >> her left hand, while releasing the shutter with the right hand. > > What have you been smoking? >> >> >> Another hint could be the blur, which means usually a difference in >> focus or a movement within exposure time. > >> Here the blur suggests a significant difference in distance between >> blurred objects and focussed objects. > > Yes the table and books were in the foreground, so blurred. Photoshopping hadn't been invented in 1924, and doctoring photos has come a very long way since then. Consider this one, from the same decade, where the fakery is embarrassingly obvious: https://www.nj.com/entertainment/arts/2012/09/as_the_art_market_remains_on_a.html Notice that although the two men appear to be sitting on the same bench, the bits they're sitting on are completely different. As Thomas Heger appears to be confused about it, I should point out that the chap on the right is Stalin, not Mao Tse Tung. -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-21 12:53 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
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