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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Date | 2023-11-09 07:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kr3dvhFqir6U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (21 earlier) <ui8d2d$1tof$1@dont-email.me> <kqrkovFgcrlU1@mid.individual.net> <uibh6d$k15f$1@dont-email.me> <kqu80vFtv9nU1@mid.individual.net> <uifegf$1gh77$1@dont-email.me> |
Am 08.11.2023 um 08:48 schrieb Volney: > On 11/7/2023 2:44 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 06.11.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Volney: >> >>>>>> Look at the picture AGAIN: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg/786px-Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to try to locate that hand in the scence, by trying to >>>>>> assume, >>>>> >>>>> I am not going to assume anything. I need to see it. There is no hand. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Assumptions are a very important part of the scientific method and >>>> science without assumptions is not science. >>>> >>>> >>>> In any situation, where you try to find out something, you need to >>>> make estimates about the possible solutions. >>> >>> No, not so. The closest is to have a hypothesis on how something >>> happens, but the hypothesis has no value until you perform an >>> observation or experiment which supports (or refutes) it. >> >> Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. >> >> But 'to observe' would include to look at something, which was in this >> case a certain photography. >> >> Therefor, I made observations (looked at that picture) and have drawn >> conclusions from these observations. >> >> These conclusions are my hypothesis, which would fit to my >> observations and were presented here for discussion. > > No you go off and assume this nonexistent hand belongs to some female > photograph manipulator, when there is no evidence of any sort of thing. >> >> My hypothesis could be, nevertheless, wrong. > > It certainly is wrong. > >> But until now it is a valid theory, unless somebody proves it wrong. > > No, you have to prove it valid. You have not done so. >> >>>> Then you examine your assumptions and select those, which are >>>> promising. >>>> >>>> Then you redo the step of factfinding on the background of your best >>>> assumptions and derive new assumptions, which could aqgain be >>>> evaluated. >>> >>> Yet you haven't done that. You have a crazy hypothesis of photographic >>> manipulation, which has no supporting evidence. All you have is an >>> imagined "hand". >> >> >> The photo itself is evidence enough. > > OK, the photograph is evidence that there is no hand there. Because I > can see that there is no hand there. >> >> A published picture is irrevocable, because it is printed thousands of >> times. >> >> So: what is on the picture is on it. > > A book, piece of paper/another book set on a piece of furniture. > Probably the camera had a timer and placed on/near the furniture so that > everyone in the room could be in the photo when the timer went off and > snapped the picture. No. For almost all of my life I had photography as a hobby. I had a darkroom, own numerous cameras and had a few exhibitions of my pictures. I have a lot of training in this realm and can certainly see, how a picture was made. Here I assumed a montage, because the content of the picture is total nonsense to beginn with. Also the montage itself is visible. E.g. the head and the body allegedly depicting Hitler do not fit together and you can see a thin white rim around the head. This alone would be evidence enough, but actually there is much more. This hand shows now tremendous stupidity of the fakers of this picture, because to photograph the own hand in the reproduction of a montage requires just that. ... TH
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