Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-09-25 22:34 +0200
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Am 25.09.2020 um 17:56 schrieb Dieter Heidorn:
> Kurt schrieb:
>> Am 25.09.2020 um 17:20 schrieb Dieter Heidorn:
>>> Kurt schrieb:
>>>> Am 25.09.2020 um 17:10 schrieb Dieter Heidorn:
>>>>> Kurt schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>>> Machs doch,
>>>>>> Zur Erinnerung:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeit ist eine Menge an Ereignissen, also eine Zahl, erstellt 
>>>>>>>>>>>> und
>>>>>>>>>>>> gezählt
>>>>>>>>>>>> von einer Maschine, genannt Uhr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Das ist falsch. Zeit ist keine Zahl.
>>>>
>>>> Was ist sie denn?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Versuch' doch bitte einmal ernsthaft das von mir benannte Beispiel zu
>>> durchdenken:
>>>
>>>     Die Halbwertszeit von Myonen (das sind instabile Elementarteilchen)
>>>     beträgt 1,52 µs. Eine solche Zeitspanne werde mit zwei Atomuhren
>>>     gemessen, einmal mit einer Cs133-Uhr und ein anderes Mal mit einer
>>>     Rb87-Uhr. Diese Uhren liefern folgende Anzahlen genormter 
>>> Ereignisse:
>>>
>>>     Cs133:  13 972 Ereignisse
>>>     Rb87:    9 553 Ereignisse
>>>
>>>     Welche Zahl soll denn nun die Zeit sein?
>>>
>>
>> Du bist gefragt was "die Zeit" ist, nicht ich.
>>
> 
> Nein. Die oben zitierte Frage:
> 
>>>> Was ist sie denn?
> 
> war deine Replik auf meine Aussage:
> 
>>>>>> Das ist falsch. Zeit ist keine Zahl.
> 
> Weiter:
> 
>>>> Was ist "die Zeit"?
> 
> ...ist wieder _deine_ Frage...
> 
> Und das war meine Antwort:
> 
>>> Wenn du das Beispiel durchdenkst, kannst du einen Schrittt weiter zur
>>> Beantwortung der Frage kommen.
>>>
>> ---------------------
>>      Die Halbwertszeit von Myonen (das sind instabile Elementarteilchen)
>>      beträgt 1,52 µs. Eine solche Zeitspanne werde mit zwei Atomuhren
>>      gemessen,
>> --------------------
>>
>> Nö, da wurde ein Vergleich angestellt.
> 
> Und das wird verkürzt als "Messen der Zeit bezeichnet. Hat Takvorian
> dir bereits sehr schön erklärt, also stell' dich jetzt nicht dumm.
> 
>> Da wurde die Zeiteinheit "Sekunde", wohl erstellt von einer Referenzuhr,
>> genommen und diese in weitere Teile aufgeteilt, soweit das es für die
>> Vergleichsaufgabe reichte (die 1,52 µs).
>>
>> Dann wurde verglichen wieviele Takte/Ereignisse die beiden Atomuhren
>> erbringen müssen damit der gleiche Zahlenwert wie die Halbwertszeit (von
>> 1,52µs) vorliegt.
>>
>> Es wurden lauter Zahlen verwendet.
>>
> 
> Und das Entscheidende:
> 
> _Es wurde eine definierte Maßeinheit verwendet._
> 
> Und daher ist Zeit eben keine "Zahl", sondern eine physikalische Größe.
> 
>> Und nun die Frage an dich:
>> Was ist "die Zeit"?
>>
> 
> Den ersten Schritt hast du getan:
> 
> * Zeit ist keine Zahl, sondern eine physikalische Größe.
> 
> * Zu ihrer Angabe ist nicht nur eine Zahl nötig, sondern sie
>    muss in Bezug auf eine definierte Einheit angegeben werden.
> 
> Das zeigt das genannte Beispiel sehr deutlich:
> 
>     Die Halbwertszeit von Myonen (das sind instabile Elementarteilchen)
>     beträgt 1,52 µs. Eine solche Zeitspanne werde mit zwei Atomuhren
>     gemessen, einmal mit einer Cs133-Uhr und ein anderes Mal mit einer
>     Rb87-Uhr. Diese Uhren liefern folgende Anzahlen genormter Ereignisse:
> 
>     Cs133:  13 972 Ereignisse
>     Rb87:    9 553 Ereignisse
> 
> Was soll davon denn die Zeit sein?
> 

Na was denn schon, es gibt sie nicht.
Siehst es ja das du es nicht sagen kannst was die Zeit ist.


---------------------------------------
Nö, da wurde ein Vergleich angestellt.
Da wurde die Zeiteinheit "Sekunde", wohl erstellt von einer Referenzuhr, 
genommen und diese in weitere Teile aufgeteilt, soweit das es für die
Vergleichsaufgabe reichte (die 1,52 µs).

Dann wurde verglichen wieviele Takte/Ereignisse die beiden Atomuhren 
erbringen müssen damit der gleiche Zahlenwert wie die Halbwertszeit (von 
1,52µs) vorliegt.

Es wurden lauter Zahlen verwendet.

- Die Referenzsekunde beruht auf einer Menge an Ereignissen, erstellt 
von einer Uhr

- die Zerfallszeit beruht auf auf einem Bruchteil einer Zeiteinheit, der 
Sekunde, ebenfalls eine Menge an Ereignissen

- die Menge an notwendigen Ereignissen der jeweiligen Atomuhr dazu wurde 
in Beziehung dazu gesetzt.
----------------------------------


Du schreibst selber:

 > Und das Entscheidende:
 >
 > _Es wurde eine definierte Maßeinheit verwendet._


Die Maßeinheit ist eine Zahl, eine Menge an ausgewählten Ereignissen in 
einem festgelegten Zusammenhang.
Aus der gezählten Menge an Ereignissen werden Zeiteinheiten kreiert und 
diese werden dann, dein Beispiel mit den Myonen zeigt es ja, miteinander 
in Beziehung gesetzt.
Es sind immer Mengen, immer Zahlen, was anderes gibt es da nicht.


Die Zeit, nach der ich dich mehrmals gefragt habe, du nie sagen konntest 
was das ist, gibt es nicht, sie kann auch nicht verbogen werden, 
verkürzt, gedehnt, gestreckt und kann auch nicht anders vergehen.
Auch Reisen in der Zeit ist nicht möglich.
All diese grossen Behauptungen sind einfach nur falsch.


Zur Erinnerung:
---------------------
Zeit ist eine Menge an Ereignissen, also eine Zahl, erstellt
und gezählt von einer Maschine, genannt Uhr.
------------------



  Kurt

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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-11 16:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 18:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-09 18:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-10 19:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 19:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-11 09:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-07 18:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 19:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-07 20:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-10 13:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 14:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-10 14:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-10 16:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 19:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-10 21:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 21:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-13 13:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 14:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-13 15:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-14 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Erika Ciesla <abc@xyz.invalid> - 2020-10-14 15:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 22:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Erika Ciesla <abc@xyz.invalid> - 2020-10-15 01:23 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 08:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Erika Ciesla <abc@xyz.invalid> - 2020-10-15 15:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 18:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-15 15:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 18:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-15 15:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Erika Ciesla <abc@xyz.invalid> - 2020-10-15 16:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-15 16:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 18:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-11 16:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 21:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-12 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 21:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 22:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' HWS <h.w.schmitt@web.de> - 2020-10-07 23:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-08 22:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-08 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-09 01:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 22:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 22:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 23:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 21:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-12 07:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 18:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 19:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 21:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 21:25 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 22:25 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 22:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 21:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 22:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 21:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 22:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 22:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-15 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-16 01:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 00:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-28 18:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 12:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 12:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 19:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 20:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 20:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 21:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 23:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-29 00:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 00:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 10:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 21:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-01 11:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 12:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 14:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-01 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 17:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 18:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 07:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 09:23 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 12:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 12:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 14:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 14:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 15:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 16:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-03 16:11 +0200
                Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 17:35 +0200
                Re: Ganz wirre Fragen Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 18:35 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 10:45 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 11:18 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 11:46 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 11:52 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 16:03 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 16:29 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-05 17:01 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 01:05 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 09:25 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 10:09 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 10:27 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 10:36 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 11:51 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 12:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 13:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-01 21:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 06:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-02 09:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 10:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-02 11:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-02 16:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 05:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 05:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 09:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 09:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-03 18:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-03 23:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-04 04:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-04 05:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-04 13:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-04 17:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-02 18:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-29 16:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 19:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 19:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-29 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 21:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 00:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 22:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 10:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 11:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 11:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 11:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 12:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 14:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 16:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 18:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 21:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 22:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-01 19:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 22:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 10:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 11:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-28 11:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Heribert Hurtig <heri@sogetthis.com> - 2020-09-28 12:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 12:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-28 21:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 19:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <fritz2011@gmx-topmail.de> - 2020-09-28 10:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 10:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 21:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 23:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 00:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 12:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 13:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 15:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 17:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 19:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 20:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 20:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 22:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 15:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 13:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 22:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 07:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 10:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 10:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 12:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 00:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 00:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 23:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 16:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 18:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-26 15:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 10:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 11:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 15:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 13:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 22:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 13:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 13:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 00:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:26 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-25 23:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 07:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-18 08:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 08:46 +0200
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-15 18:00 +0200
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 13:04 +0200

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