Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-09-22 23:58 +0200
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Kurt schrieb:

> Am 22.09.2020 um 22:30 schrieb Takvorian:
>> Kurt schrieb:
>> 
>>> Am 22.09.2020 um 12:09 schrieb Takvorian:
>>>> Kurt schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> Zeit verstreicht nicht, es gibt keine.
>>>>
>>>> Zu deiner Fortbildung:
>>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeit
>>>
>>>> Zeit ist "Abfolge von Ereignissen"
>>>
>>> Nö, die Abfolge von Ereignissen ist die Abfolge von Ereignissen.
>> 
>> In allen Sprachen ist es üblich, gedanklichen Konstrukten einen prägnanten
>> Begriff zuzuordnen, statt sie jedes Mal umständlich mit einem Satz
>> umschreiben zu müssen.
>> Man sagt deshalb z.B. "wie viel Zeit habe ich noch bis zum Termin?" und
>> nicht "wie viele Abfolgen von genormten Ereignissen sind es noch bis zum
>> Termin?"
>>   
> 
> Selbstverständlich.
> Es gibt also "die Zeit" nicht.
> Der Begriff "Zeit" steht eindeutig für eine Menge an Ereignissen.

Zeit ist ein Begriff für etwas, was es gibt. Somit gibt es also Zeit und
Zeit ist kein "Ding".
 
>>>> und selbstverständlich gibt es eine
>>>> Abfolge von Ereignissen.
>>>
>>> Aber selbstverständlich, die Ereignisse ereignen sich in einer Abfolge,
>> 
>> Na siehste.
>> 
>>> die Dauer zwischen den Ereignissen ist nicht fix sondern von den am Ort
>>> des Ereignens herrschenden Umständen abhängig.
>> 
>> Speziell in der RT vergeht die Zeit (die Abfolgen von Ereignissen)
>> experimentell bestätigt langsamer, je höher die Geschwindigkeit des bewegten
>> Systems.
> 
> Wie stellst du die Geschwindigkeit des Systems fest?

Einfachste Methode: Man kann z.B. ganz gleichmäßig runterzählen, wie lange
ein Objekt von Punkt A nach Punkt B braucht. Es kann Punkt B bei 50
erreichen oder schon bei 10. Im Falle von 10 war es offensichtlich
schneller. (Strecke pro Zeiteinheit) Es genügen auch die Augen alleine:
jeder Mensch sieht den Unterschied, wenn ein Auto mit 10 oder 100 km/h an
ihm vorbeifährt. Für genauere Messungen werden dann passend genaue
Messgeräte verwendet.

>>>> Dein Physik-Wissen ist leider auch hier deutlich
>>>> unterentwickelt.
>>>
>>> Wenn du die "Vorgaben" der "moderne Physik" meinst, dann hast du
>>> sicherlich recht.
>> 
>> Wie gesagt, experimentell bewiesen und unanfechtbar in der modernen Physik.
>> Die moderne Physik ist allemal besser als die Physik vergangener Zeiten.
> 
> Sie beschreibt also die Realität richtig.

Da niemand die "Realität" kennt, kann auch niemand sie "richtig
beschreiben". In der Physik sind allerdings gewisse Theorien/Naturgesetze
experimentell bestätigt und solange sie niemand widerlegt und dies wiederum
experimentell bestätigt wird, sind sie gültig. All unsere Technik beruht ja
auf dieser bestätigten Physik und deshalb funktioniert sie auch.
 
>>>> Die Zeit vergeht also für jeden deutlich erkennbar und auch
>>>> messbar.
>>>
>>> Dumm nur das es "die Zeit" nicht gibt.
>>> Was willst du also messen?
>> 
>> Nun, die Abfolge der Ereignisse ist prima messbar.
> 
> Also ist nicht die Zeit messbar, sondern ein Zählen von Ereignissen 
> findet statt.

Siehe oben. Das, was man als Zeit definiert hat, ist real und messbar.

>> Im stark bewegten System
> 
> Wann ist ein System stark bewegt, wie stellst du das fest?

Na, je länger man ein System beschleunigt, desto höher seine
Geschwindigkeit. Mit viel Energieaufwand kann man nahe an c rankommen.
Im Auto gibt es dafür ein Messgerät, das km/h anzeigt und die Polizei
kontrolliert die zu stark bewegten Systeme mit allerlei ausgefuchster
Technik, Messchranken, Laser usw... :o)
 
>> z.B. war sie stark reduziert, verglichen mit dem weniger stark bewegten
>> System. Z.B: zwei unterschiedlich schnell bewegte Atomuhren
>> zeigen Gangunterschiede.
> 
> Heisst also das man damit erkennen kann welche der beiden bewegt bzw. 
> stärker bewegt ist.

Oder einem stärkeren oder schwächeren Gravitationsfeld ausgesetzt waren...
Ja, das ist dann erkennbar, sie zeigen unterschiedliche Zeiten an.
 
>>>> je näher an c, desto drastischer.
> 
> 
>>> Tja, damit wären wir beim nächstem Ding:
>>> Was ist c
>> 
> 
>> c = Lichtgeschwindigkeit. 
> 
> c bedeutet also die Geschwindigkeit mit der ein Lichtsignal eine Strecke 
> überwindet.
> 
>> Je höher die Annäherung an c,
> 
> Wieso? du hast gesagt das c für die Lichtgeschwindigkeit steht, wieso 
> jetzt eine Annäherung?

Laut aktueller Physik ist c für Masse nicht erreichbar, man bräuchte
unendlich viel Energie. Man kann also nur eine Annäherung erreichen.
 
>> desto größer die
>> Zeitdehnung bzw. Verlangsamung der Ereignisse.
>> 
> 
> Was denn nun?
> - es wird etwas gedehnt, also ein Ding, die Zeit, in die Länge gezogen.
> - der Ablauf von bestimmten Ereignissen findet langsamer statt, 
> langsamer als vorher.

Streiche dein zwanghaftes "Ding", dann kommt es hin. 
 
> Ist die Lichtgeschwindigkeit ein Ding das man dehnen kann oder was ist das?

Nicht die Lichtgeschwindigkeit wird gedehnt, sondern der Ablauf der Zeit,
die Abfolge der physikalischen Ereignisse, die Abfolge der Körperfunktionen
- und das umso mehr, je mehr man sich c annähert. An den Zwillingen deutlich
erkennbar: der eine ein Greis, der andere ein Jüngling geblieben. Keine
Messung erforderlich.
In der SF-Literatur erreichen Leute z.B. via Wurmloch ein Paralleluniversum
und stellen bei Rückkehr schockiert fest, dass während der einen Woche
Eigenzeit im anderen Universum im Heimat-Universum 1000 Jahre vergangen
sind. Es spricht derzeit nichts gegen andere Universen mit anderen
Zeitabläufen. Das Beispiel mit den Zwillingen ist ja im Grunde nichts
anderes. Geht schon hier im eigenen Universum.

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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-09 18:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 05:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-11 09:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-11 16:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 18:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-09 18:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-10 19:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 19:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-11 09:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-07 18:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 19:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-07 20:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-10 13:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 14:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-10 14:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-10 16:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 19:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-10 21:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 21:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-13 13:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 14:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-13 15:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-14 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Erika Ciesla <abc@xyz.invalid> - 2020-10-14 15:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 22:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-11 16:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 21:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-10-12 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 21:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-07 22:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' HWS <h.w.schmitt@web.de> - 2020-10-07 23:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-08 22:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-08 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-09 01:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-09 22:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 22:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-10 23:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 21:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-12 07:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 18:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 19:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 21:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 21:25 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 22:25 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-12 22:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 21:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-13 22:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 21:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-14 22:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 00:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-28 18:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 12:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 12:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 19:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 20:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 20:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 21:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 23:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-29 00:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 00:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 10:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 21:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-01 11:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 12:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 14:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-01 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 17:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 18:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 07:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 09:23 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 12:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 12:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 14:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 14:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-02 15:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 16:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-03 16:11 +0200
                Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 17:35 +0200
                Re: Ganz wirre Fragen Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 18:35 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 10:45 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 11:18 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 11:46 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 11:52 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 16:03 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-05 16:29 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-05 17:01 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 01:05 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 09:25 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 10:09 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 10:27 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 10:36 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-06 11:51 +0200
                Re: Ganz normale Fragen Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-06 12:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 13:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-01 21:11 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 06:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-02 09:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-02 10:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-02 11:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-02 16:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 05:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 05:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-10-03 09:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-03 09:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-03 18:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-03 23:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-10-04 04:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-04 05:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Mitleser <mitleser@invalid.invalid> - 2020-10-04 13:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-04 17:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-10-02 18:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-29 16:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 19:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 19:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-29 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 21:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 00:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-29 22:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 10:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 11:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 11:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-30 11:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 12:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 14:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-30 16:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 18:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 21:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-30 22:43 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-10-01 19:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-10-01 21:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-10-01 22:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 10:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 11:04 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-28 11:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Heribert Hurtig <heri@sogetthis.com> - 2020-09-28 12:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 12:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 20:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-28 21:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 18:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 19:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <fritz2011@gmx-topmail.de> - 2020-09-28 10:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-28 10:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 21:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 23:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 00:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 12:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 13:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 15:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 17:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 18:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-28 10:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 13:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 18:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 19:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 20:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 20:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-27 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-27 22:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 15:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 13:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 22:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 07:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 10:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 10:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 12:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 00:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 00:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 23:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 16:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 18:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-26 15:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 10:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 11:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 15:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 13:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 22:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 13:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 13:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 00:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:26 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-25 23:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 07:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-18 08:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 08:46 +0200
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-15 18:00 +0200
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 13:04 +0200

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