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Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed

From Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed
Date 2011-11-29 12:04 -0800
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Novice wrote:
> Which raises an excellent point. Just what GUI is the best way to go 
> these days? The customer wants a desktop application that will run on 
> Windows and Mac. I'm mostly familiar with Swing and see no obvious reason 
> why it couldn't do the job required by the customer. Would Spring MVC or 
> Struts 2 be better? If so, why? 

Spring MVC is not a GUI.

Struts is not a GUI.

Did you look at the Web sites for those frameworks?  It's obvious that they are not GUIs.

> I'm not sure what the learning curve would be to get up to speed on 
> Spring or Struts. I just looked at two  YouTube videos, one on Spring and 
> one on Struts and found both pretty dreadful. I'm sure the products are 
> good but the videos were very poorly produced with very poor presenters 

Struts is good.  I am not pleased with Spring.  Most of what Spring offers has been supplanted by standard Java and Java EE annotations.

> with heavy accents and rather unfocused content. They were chock full of 
> vague generalities and very skimpy on actual details. I'm optimistic that 
> there are better tutorials on both subjects and that I can find those 
> better tutorials if they exist but, so far, I'm not clear on when/why 
> Spring or Struts would be better than Swing.  

Applea and oranges.  They aren't even for the same architecture as Swing.

> This again raises the question of whether customer should pay me my going 
> rate to learn Spring or Struts or whether I should eat the cost of the 
> learning?

You should at least learn enough to discern what is relevant and what is not before contemplating entering into such a contract.

-- 
Lew

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General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 15:41 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-28 11:37 -0500
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:04 +0000
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 11:09 -0800
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:48 +0000
          Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 12:14 -0800
            Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Rhino <no.offline.contact.please@example.com> - 2011-11-28 21:28 +0000
              Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 14:14 -0800
                Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 05:24 +0000
                Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-29 20:44 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:53 +0000
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:52 +0000
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-11-29 07:20 -0400
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 16:06 +0000
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 12:04 -0800
          Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 00:12 +0000
            Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 22:02 -0800
              Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 20:28 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-28 10:03 -0800
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 10:44 -0800
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 20:13 +0000
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 12:59 -0800
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-29 14:04 -0800
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-29 15:07 -0800
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:56 +0000

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