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Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Novice <novice@example..com>
wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> wrote in
>news:2fl7d7djdq6cpho3qfqmckjt7h2rjbagg6@4ax.com: 

[snip]

>> I have, on occasion, charged less for a learning opportunity, but I
>> always make the point that I have a lot of skill and experience, and
>> that it is of benefit even when I am working in an area that I am not
>> expert in.
>>
>Do they ever ask you to prove that? If so, how do you do it? I just mean 
>that body language and a confident tone of voice are all that a customer 
>needs to sometimes but what if they been burned by someone who seemed 
>self-confident and had turned out to be a dud and now wanted some kind of 
>proof that you have enough skill and experience? Do you just refer them 
>to your resume and references or is there more to be done?

     I could say that there are similarities in all analysis and
programming.  If it gets too far with the suspicion, I would decline.
Trust is very important.  If I am not getting any to start with, what
would happen in the future?  Working under those conditions could be
nasty.

     I had an interview with one person for a job where he insisted
that it would all have to be his way regardless of any technical
issues.  Maybe, he had been stung.  I do not know.  What I do know is
that I was unwilling to work with him.  I have expertise.  To tell me
that I can not use it in its area is an insult.  On my way back to
town, he called to tell the people who had sent me, no.  A few months
later, he called me (left a message).  I did not return the call.

>>      Think of it this way.  You have to learn what a client wants and
>> needs.  You charge for that, right?  So you already are charging for
>> learning time.
>
>I agree that learning his specific requirements is something I'm learning 
>that I will charge him for. I'm more concerned about specific techniques 
>like queueing or file transferring and whether those should be treated 
>the same way.

     If in doubt, charge.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 15:41 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-28 11:37 -0500
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:04 +0000
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 11:09 -0800
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:48 +0000
          Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 12:14 -0800
            Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Rhino <no.offline.contact.please@example.com> - 2011-11-28 21:28 +0000
              Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 14:14 -0800
                Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 05:24 +0000
                Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-29 20:44 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:53 +0000
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:52 +0000
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-11-29 07:20 -0400
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 16:06 +0000
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 12:04 -0800
          Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 00:12 +0000
            Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 22:02 -0800
              Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 20:28 +0000
  Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-28 10:03 -0800
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 10:44 -0800
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 20:13 +0000
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 12:59 -0800
      Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-29 14:04 -0800
        Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-29 15:07 -0800
    Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:56 +0000

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