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| From | Novice <novice@example..com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed |
| Date | 2011-11-28 15:41 +0000 |
| Organization | Your Company |
| Message-ID | <Xns9FAB6D10C61ABjpnasty@94.75.214.39> (permalink) |
I've got some questions about consulting as a Java developer. Thanks to a personal connection, a project needing a Java developer has just come to my attention and I can probably get this contract if I play my cards right. Unfortunately, as I've said elsewhere in this newsgroup, I'm a Java hobbyist and have done very little paid work as a Java developer so I'm not completely sure on how to land this project. Most of my past consulting has been developing websites so I'm not sure on several details of how to present and sell myself. The opportunity is literally sitting in my inbox as we speak in the form of an email from my friend's friend. He's asking me what my rate is and I'm not sure what to answer. I don't know what the going rate is for Java development in this area since there isn't a whole lot of Java development around here and I have no idea what rates people are asking. Frankly, I'm willing to do the work at almost any rate he's willing to offer, although, naturally, I'd rather get more than less. I'm also concerned that if I set my rate too low, he'll think that I'm really awful at what I do and look elsewhere for someone to fill the opportunity. Can anyone suggest a way to come up with a rate that encourages him to give me the job, even if we have to negotiate it down (or up) to something we both can live with? In a nutshell, if I tell him $10/hr, I think I'll be signalling that I'm so awful that that's the best I think I can get. If I tell him $100/hr, I think his expectations may be beyond my abilities and/or I'll be so high that he won't even bother to try to talk me down. I don't want to give him a number that is going to scare him off and convince him that this is not worth further discussion. A related issue is what I think of as R&D work. In the past, if I've gotten jobs to do something that I don't entirely know how to do, I've made a point of absorbing the R&D costs and not passing them to the customer. For example, if someone wanted me to build a website and include an online shopping component so that customers could buy things via a shopping cart and credit card, if I didn't know how to implement a shopping cart and set up a merchant account, I'd research that on my own time and not charge the customer, since he basically assumed I knew how to do that going in. It didn't feel right to charge him for the time it took me to get up to speed. I treated it as an investment in my own education and did the learning on my own time, charging him only to implement the solution, once I figured out how to do it. I'm not sure if that's standard practice among other consultants or something very odd, maybe even unprofessional. I'd really like your thoughts on how I should handle this. Should I assure him that the things I have to teach myself in order to complete this project won't show up on his bill? Or will that seem unprofessional? Or is he going to expect to pay me while I teach myself the elements of his project that I don't already know? As I said, this opportunity is sitting in my inbox and I don't want to keep him waiting excessively. I know that requests for urgent help are greatly frowned upon in newsgroups and believe me, I'm kicking myself that I didn't figure out this kind of stuff long ago but it just wasn't anything I particularly needed to know at the time. Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated. Sorry to put it on such an urgent footing; this came up very suddenly and unexpectedly. -- Novice
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General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 15:41 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-28 11:37 -0500
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:04 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 11:09 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:48 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 12:14 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Rhino <no.offline.contact.please@example.com> - 2011-11-28 21:28 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-28 14:14 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 05:24 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-29 20:44 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 17:53 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:52 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-11-29 07:20 -0400
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-29 16:06 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 12:04 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 00:12 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 22:02 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 20:28 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-28 10:03 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 10:44 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 20:13 +0000
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-28 12:59 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-29 14:04 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-29 15:07 -0800
Re: General Consulting Advice Urgently Needed Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-28 19:56 +0000
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