Re: Surplus electricity

From	john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Surplus electricity
Date	2026-04-02 08:05 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 14:54:36 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

>On 2/04/2026 3:35 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10qjddp$ad1m$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 1/04/2026 7:10 pm, john larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 15:36:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/04/2026 11:34 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10qfl5l$326de$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 31/03/2026 2:09 am, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 14:47:41 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30/03/2026 3:10 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10q7ltu$atug$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/03/2026 5:43 am, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 01:55:01 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/03/2026 10:24 pm, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 15:19:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/03/2026 1:48 am, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 01:25:09 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2026 8:48 pm, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 16:51:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2026 6:38 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-03-25 12:17, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 01:28:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2026 1:10 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/25/2026 04:21 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2026 6:14 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/24/2026 09:21 PM, Don Y wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>> Told ya so.
>>>
>>> You didn't.
>> 
>> Yes he did.
>
>In your ever-so-expert opinion.
>
>>> You made a bald claim unsupported by any evidence.
>> 
>> LOL
>
>Edward Rawde is easily amused.

That makes life more enjoyable. Are you ever amused? Certainly not
here.

>
>> Eb Major has three flats.
>> I can find evidence if you want but I don't provide evidence for every
>> statement I make because others can either find out for themselves or they
>> may already know.
>
>John Larkin made vague and unsupported claims about aluminium and zinc 
>metallisation in plastic film capacitors. He did - more or less 
>accidentally - came up with a link to more specific information, but he 
>didn't highlight the link in any way or indicate what the specific 
>information meant.

I said that film caps do not use single-atom thick metalization, and
that some use combined aluminum and zinc metalization. I learned those
in a few minutes of web searching.

>
>It is perfectly true that any of us might have come up with that for 
>ourselves if we had looked hard enough, but in this particular instance 
>he didn't look very hard. He rarely does.

It wasn't hard to find facts about metalization. The mystery is why
you couldn't.

I wonder how really big caps are constructed, like the utility
power-factor things.

I used to buy huge oil caps when I was a kid, to pop flashtubes or
just make loud noises. I'd run them at all the voltage I could make,
like 25 KV.


John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  Re: Surplus electricity Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:53 -0700
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