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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:22:43 +0100,  wrote:

> On 2017-04-15 18:06:53 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
> <imvalid@somewear.com> said:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:20:30 +0100,  wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-12 00:04:23 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:50:14 +0100,  wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-04-11 22:34:22 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:29:57 +0100,  wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-04-11 22:07:10 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:43:47 +0100,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-04-11 21:23:38 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>>>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:12:54 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2017 07:09 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's cyan. it's not light blue. that's why it's called cyan ink and not
>>>>>>>>>>>> light blue ink.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I used to have a printer with SIX ink cartridges. IIRC they were cyan,
>>>>>>>>>>> light cyan, magenta, light magenta, yellow, black.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mine has NO ink cartridges.  You actually buy a new little plastic
>>>>>>>>>> container all the time?  I have huge tanks sat on the desk beside it.
>>>>>>>>>> When one looks a bit low, I pour some in from a bottle.  Equivalent to
>>>>>>>>>> 3p (4c) a cartridge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you don't give a damn when it comes to color printing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would having the ink in a different container change the colour output?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For many good photo printers you will usually find 6 or more inks. My
>>>>>>>>> Epson uses 8 UltraChrome K3 inks; Photo Black, Light Black, Light Light
>>>>>>>>> Black, Yellow, Vivid Magenta, Vivid Light Magenta, Cyan, Light Cyan,
>>>>>>>>> and when using matte paper Photo Black is exchanged for Matte Black.
>>>>>>>>> The newer photo printers user 10 tanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it makes no difference at all to the output.  All you need is
>>>>>>>> decent paper and fine ink nozzles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and a color managed workflow with a properly calibrated system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Printer manufacturers must love you.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and yet I can produce superb color prints from my dedicated Epson
>>>>> photo printer, and fairly good color prints from my general purpose
>>>>> Epson "all-in-one" printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you use for your photo prints?
>>>>
>>>> An Epson with 4 colours, on decent paper, in the mode with the highest
>>>> resolution.  They look just like photos from a 35mm camera done in a
>>>> professional lab.
>>>
>>> An Epson 4 color printer is going to give you acceptable, sometimes
>>> very good color prints, but in no way the best photo reproduction. My
>>> general document and occasional photo printer is an Epson XP-610, a 4
>>> color printer capable of producing good photo prints no larger than
>>> 8"x10". However, there is no comparison when I compare what it produces
>>> against my 8 color photo printer, especially when using high quality
>>> papers, and matching printer/paper specific icc profiles in my color
>>> managed workflow.
>>
>> If I set mine to maximum quality (which takes fucking ages) it's
>> perfect quality.
>
> "Perfect quality", whatever that means out of a 4 color printer. When
> it comes to photography, especially color photography and the resulting
> prints, the results are always subjective, and an opinion of "perfect
> quality" is going to be just as subjective. So if what you produce is
> good enough for your eye, just go ahead. I am working to attain a
> different level of "perfect quality" to yours.

It's as good as my monitor, which is indistinguishable from the original scenes I photographed.

>>> As for making prints look just like those from a 35mm camera, that sort
>>> of degradation is easily done with software.
>>
>> I take it you didn't have a professional SLR 35mm camera.
>
> WTF is a professional SLR 35mm camera?

What a ridiculous question.  Ask a journalist who wasn't born this century.

> I haven't shot 35mm film for years now, especially since APS-C, FF, and
> MF digital has exceeded 35mm film in all respects. In all respects that
> is, except for those folks refusing to accept that ugly truth because
> they are locked into Kodachrome nostalgia.

I used 35mm before digital was invented.  The main reason I stopped wasn't quality, it was the ability to take 1000s of photos without taking out a second mortgage or constantly reloading film.  I'd go to a racetrack day and take 5000 photos on digital (motorbikes are bloody fast and it's easier to take 10 rapid shots as each one passes).

> I own and use a Nikon DSLR, and two Fujifilm X-series mirrorless
> cameras, along with a few other compact digital cameras. I still own,
> but seldom use three 35mm cameras, an SLR and two rangefinders. I
> seldom use them because my digital cameras produce better images. That
> said, it is simple enought to emmulate 35mm film, old and current using
> software.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 19:06 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 14:45 -0400
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 13:22 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 21:52 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 14:50 -0700

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