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Re: OT: "Every American"...

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date 2017-02-07 19:51 -0700
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On 2/7/17, 7:25 PM, in article o7dvfh$1hf$1@dont-email.me, "FPP"
<fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

... 
>>> I disagree that both candidates were terrible.  Clinton is not
>>> especially good at schmoozy populist campaigning, but I think her high
>>> negatives were mainly the result of a tireless coordinated smear
>>> campaign that ran for decades (and not helped by her association with
>>> Bill- while he is a great campaigner, his personal ethics and morals are
>>> atrocious).
>> 
>> Watch the NY debate with Sanders. How many questions does she give a
>> non-slimy, direct answer to? She is incapable of being honest. That got us
>> Trump.

The above question was not rhetorical -- what question from that debate did
Clinton actually give a straight answer to? You might find one but it would
be hard!

>>> Trump is utterly unqualified to be President, as he
>>> tirelessly demonstrated during the campaign, the transition and now that
>>> he's in office;
>> 
>> Agreed. But keep in mind the choices of Clinton and the DNC are a large part
>> of what got us Trump in the White House. Her judgment in giving him the best
>> -- if not only - change he had is enough to know she is not qualified
>> either.
>> 
>> And now, maybe, the Democrats will wake up a bit and actually be more of a
>> party of the people and not a party of the wealthy.
>> 
>>> Clinton was extremely well qualified.
>> 
>> I disagree -- but, really, at this point it does not matter. We just have to
>> push the DNC to STOP doing the things which helped Trump win.
> 
> Yeah... it does matter.  She was possibly the MOST qualified candidate
> to EVER run for the office.  Period.

We can debate her qualifications but you cannot change the fact she was one
of the least liked, last trusted, least electable candidates possible.

And she showed HORRIBLE judgment... to the point of making choices to allow
Trump his only chance to get to the White House.

> That'a a quantifiable thing.  You may not have liked her, or her
> policies, but that will never change the fact that she had
> qualifications in spades.

Again, you can think and even copy from a website... but can you list the
questions from the NY debate with Sanders she answered? Hey, you can find a
YouTube video and link to the time.

But I bet you will not.

> Here are a few facts you might not know:

I have seen lists copied from the web. Not even quoting them... I mean,
really, it lists her being a class president and the first lady (something
she was not elected to) and serving on the board of Wal-Mart. So what?

...
> She's not just "a" qualified candidate, she was THE MOST qualified
> candidate.  Arguably, ever.
> If you believe otherwise, show me a candidate with more, and I'll listen.

Sanders. Not tied nearly as much to big money, elected more times than she
was, showed MUCH better judgment in almost every area, did not flip flop on
issue after issue after issue just to get political points, did not have a
foundation getting massive funding from foreign governments (which pulled
out once she lost... all coincidental), did not have his campaign block
people from voting, etc.
 
> As far as the DNC losing it's way... I agree 100% about that.  Bernie
> never would have been elected, either... but he's done a good job
> showing us why Hillary lost.

We need an alternate universe to test for sure -- but all evidence suggest
Sanders would have EASILY won. Pretty much every poll on electability and
the more important ones on being liked and trusted (more important as in
correlating more with winning).

> Well... that and the Russians who helped Trump at every turn, the FBI
> who broke it's own rules to take her down, and the Media that allowed
> Trumplethinskin to lie with impunity, all the while chasing some
> bombshell in Hillary's email that didn't exist, and NEVER existed.

Why would you think these things do not matter?

Clinton:
* Mishandled sensitive information
* Knew she mishandled sensitive information
* Showed "extreme carelessness" and was "sloppy"
* Should have understood her actions were illegal
* Responded to "suspicious emails"
* Allowed "America's secrets [to be] vulnerable to hostile element[s]"
* Showed "intent and consciousness of guilt"
* Failed to follow internal policy
* Failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act
* Stored confidential materials on a system less secure than Gmail
* Showed poor understanding of what how to keep information secure
* Showed poor understanding of technology in general

And Clinton lied... here are just some:
* Claiming under oath that she turned over all work related emails
* Claiming under oath her lawyers read all of the emails to determine
  which were work related
* Claiming under oath that she never sent / received information
  marked classified (though such markings that existed were done
  incorrectly)
* Claiming she never sent / received classified information
* Claiming the server she used was allowed under policy
* Claiming she followed the Freedom of Information Act
* Claiming that her server was secure
* Claiming she used only one device (Comey is unclear about concurrent
  usage but elsewhere Clinton speaks of using an iPhone and a Blackberry
  in such a way)
* Claiming all of her emails were saved or "captured"
* Denying she deleted work related emails or had others do so
* Denying she had emails deleted to prevent others from seeing them
* Denying the FBI investigation was a criminal investigation
* Denying she was the target of the FBI investigation

Additionally, Clinton:
* Instructed people without clearance to read / handle classified
  information
* Instructed these same people to delete and hide classified information
* Had a system which may have been hacked (we do not know)

> Oh... and she still managed to garner almost 3,000,000 MORE votes than
> the "so-called" President we have now.

I do not like Trump but he is the president... not the "so-called"
president.

And he is the fault of Clinton and her supporters... at least in part.

> We elected a pathological liar of a madman because an old lady used
> work email at home.

That is not correct. He was elected because the DNC did not pick someone who
could beat even TRUMP.

> We're fucked.

On THAT we agree.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 10:26 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 09:06 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-08 14:45 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 10:24 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 16:40 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 14:47 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 13:46 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-09 09:55 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:21 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:21 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:31 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:19 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:08 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:22 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:28 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:27 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:26 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 09:02 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 09:10 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 16:35 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 09:52 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... android <here@there.was> - 2017-02-08 18:25 +0100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 20:02 -0600
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 14:44 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-07 18:06 -0600
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-08 00:17 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 18:30 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 18:34 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 21:25 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 19:51 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 13:46 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 11:48 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 14:18 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 12:55 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:25 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:37 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:24 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:38 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:28 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:19 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:24 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:39 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:30 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:18 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-09 13:58 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:50 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-10 08:59 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 09:25 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:08 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 16:53 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 09:10 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 20:02 -0600
                Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-08 23:43 +0100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:48 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-07 18:55 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 18:21 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:38 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 23:00 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 14:49 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:28 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:29 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:46 -0600
          Re: OT: "Every American"... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-05 13:21 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:50 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:30 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-06 09:57 +0000
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-06 21:13 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-04 18:52 +0100
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-04 18:15 +0000
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-04 21:15 +0000
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-04 22:15 +0000
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-05 16:22 +0000
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-05 16:38 +0000
      Re: OT: "Every American"... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-05 01:52 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 16:55 +0100
  Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-04 16:15 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-02-04 17:45 -0600
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:49 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-04 18:10 -0800
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:53 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-04 20:24 -0800
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-04 21:34 -0800
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-04 22:53 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 17:01 +0100
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-02-05 10:39 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
              Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:55 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-06 19:35 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:41 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 18:01 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:23 -0500
  Re: OT: "Every American"... "Ed H." <phoney@bogus.com> - 2017-02-08 11:02 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 17:22 +0000

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