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Re: OT: "Every American"...

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On 2017-02-09 03:05:53 +0000, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said:

> On 2017-02-08 6:37 PM, FPP wrote:
>> On 2017-02-08 18:46:15 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
>> 
>>> On 2/8/17, 4:38 PM, in article o7ga37$kjs$1@dont-email.me, "FPP"
>>> <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2017-02-08 14:54:16 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/8/17, 12:18 PM, in article
>>>>> 080220171418450383%nospam@nospam.invalid,
>>>>> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In article <D4C0B787.8F1B2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Faced with the choice of believing the FBI or you, there is no
>>>>>>>>>>> contest.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the fbi is not immune to corruption and comey has also lied
>>>>>>>>>> under oath.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Quote this lie...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> i watched him testify before congress for the apple-doj/fbi and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> clinton debacle. within minutes, he lied in both, under oath
>>>>>>>>>> and in
>>>>>>>>>> front of congress.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that's not a lie. watch/listen to his testimony before congress,
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> he contradicts himself numerous times, *under* *oath*.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Such as...???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> comey claimed under oath that the fbi 'tried everything' to unlock the
>>>>>> san bernardino shooter's iphone. that was false. they did not try
>>>>>> everything. he lied.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> he also said under oath that only apple could unlock it and if they
>>>>>> could have unlocked it without apple's help, they would have done so
>>>>>> rather than file a lawsuit. another lie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> then a few weeks after the hearing, the fbi suddenly 'found' a way by
>>>>>> contracting with a well established forensics company.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> why didn't they contact this company *before* the lawsuit?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> clearly they had not tried everything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> comey also asked for people to call the fbi to help them unlock the
>>>>>> phone because maybe someone out there has an idea they had not tried.
>>>>>> that was pure bullshit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> it turns out that several very knowledgeable people already had called
>>>>>> the fbi offering to assist them, including members of the iphone dev
>>>>>> team (who come up with the jailbreaks) and jonathan zdziarski, one of
>>>>>> the top ios security people on the planet (who also commented on the
>>>>>> fbi's numerous contradictions and completely bogus claims) only to be
>>>>>> told that the fbi had no interest in outside help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> there were several other instances during his many hours long
>>>>>> testimony
>>>>>> where what he said either did not match reality or it contradicted
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> he had previously said, either prior to the hearing, during the
>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>> itself or in the legal briefs that were filed (which also had many of
>>>>>> their own false claims).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> when people make easily disproven claims and have stories that keep
>>>>>> changing, you know you're dealing with liars.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> he lied under oath. simple as that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did not watch that testimony, but when people say they have tried
>>>>> everything it is not meant to be taken literally. I doubt, for
>>>>> example, they
>>>>> did shamanic rituals or sang lullabies to it.
>>>> 
>>>> He's nuts, you know...
>>>> 
>>>> When asked if Comey had finished his lunch, he said "Yes.  I ate
>>>> everything".
>>>> 
>>>> Another obvious lie, as he had not actually eaten "everything".  I know
>>>> because I also ate afterward, and I had plenty!
>>> 
>>> He was asked to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
>>> truth.
>>> He did not tell ALL truths... thus not the whole truth. He lied!
>>> 
>>> What is amazing is Clinton supporters loved him when he opted to not
>>> indict.
>>> At first I was not happy with that decision but before attacking him I
>>> listened to the testimony. While I can see where others would disagree, I
>>> found it convincing and -- even though it was not the outcome I wanted
>>> -- I
>>> defended him as seemingly honorable. Clinton supporters loved it.
>>> 
>>> But then I noted what he actually said... they do not like that much.
>> 
>> Comey violated Justice Department rules.  More than once.  He commented
>> on an ongoing case, he made a public statement, he addressed Congress,
>> and sent follow-up letters in violation of Justice Dept regs and direct
>> advice from his superiors and watchdogs.
>> 
>> And, yet, when he had info on Trump weeks before the Hillary matter, he
>> refused to make any of it known because he thought it was too close to
>> the election and might sway voters and public opinion.
>> 
>> The EXACT opposite of what he did with the Clinton info.
>> He's a Republican, and he acted like it.  He has ZERO credibility any more.
> 
> As an interesting point...
> 
> If James Comey acted so very badly with bias in favour of Clinton...
> 
> ...why does he still have his job?

Bannon hasn't found a billionaire, neo-nazi, or white supremacist who 
wants the job.
...yet.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:19 -0500
  Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:38 -0500
      Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:38 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 13:46 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 11:54 -0700
              Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 14:18 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 12:54 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:38 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:46 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:37 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-08 19:05 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-08 20:08 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:14 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-09 09:55 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:36 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-08 11:23 -0800
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:35 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:35 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:09 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 17:09 -0700

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