Re: OT: "Every American"...

From	FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date	2017-02-08 18:21 -0500
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On 2017-02-08 13:46:22 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article
> <do_ray_me-83E97D.14470608022017@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> deservedly so. she was corrupt to the core.
>>> 
>> 
>> You have no evidence at all that Hillary Clinton was "corrupt to the
>> core".
> 
> there is ample evidence
> 
> start here:
> 
> In article <D4BFD5D5.8EF88%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> Clinton:
>> * Mishandled sensitive information
>> * Knew she mishandled sensitive information
>> * Showed "extreme carelessness" and was "sloppy"
>> * Should have understood her actions were illegal
>> * Responded to "suspicious emails"
>> * Allowed "America's secrets [to be] vulnerable to hostile element[s]"
>> * Showed "intent and consciousness of guilt"
>> * Failed to follow internal policy
>> * Failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act
>> * Stored confidential materials on a system less secure than Gmail
>> * Showed poor understanding of what how to keep information secure
>> * Showed poor understanding of technology in general
>> 
>> And Clinton lied... here are just some:
>> * Claiming under oath that she turned over all work related emails
>> * Claiming under oath her lawyers read all of the emails to determine
>> which were work related
>> * Claiming under oath that she never sent / received information
>> marked classified (though such markings that existed were done
>> incorrectly)
>> * Claiming she never sent / received classified information
>> * Claiming the server she used was allowed under policy
>> * Claiming she followed the Freedom of Information Act
>> * Claiming that her server was secure
>> * Claiming she used only one device (Comey is unclear about concurrent
>> usage but elsewhere Clinton speaks of using an iPhone and a Blackberry
>> in such a way)
>> * Claiming all of her emails were saved or "captured"
>> * Denying she deleted work related emails or had others do so
>> * Denying she had emails deleted to prevent others from seeing them
>> * Denying the FBI investigation was a criminal investigation
>> * Denying she was the target of the FBI investigation
>> 
>> Additionally, Clinton:
>> * Instructed people without clearance to read / handle classified
>> information
>> * Instructed these same people to delete and hide classified information
>> * Had a system which may have been hacked (we do not know)

Those are allegations.  Try finding some proof.

So far, you've done nothing but pull accusations out of your ass.

"She was sloppy."  Puhleeeezzzeeeee!
-- 
"Now Trump and his minions are in the driver’s seat, attempting to pose 
as respectable participants in American politics, when their views come 
out of a playbook written in German."  -Ron Rosenbaum, Author of 
'Explaining Hitler'
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/

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                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:08 -0500
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            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:38 -0800
              Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 23:00 -0500
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            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:28 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:29 -0500
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