Re: OT: "Every American"...

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date	2017-02-08 16:36 -0700
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On 2/8/17, 4:33 PM, in article o7g9pl$isu$7@dont-email.me, "FPP"
<fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2017-02-07 21:57:04 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
> 
>> On 2/7/17, 7:39 PM, in article o7e0ck$n89$3@news.datemas.de, "Alan Baker"
>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-02-07 6:03 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <o7bbjs$ggp$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> her statements under oath are as factual as it gets.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And which of those statements factually supports your allegation that
>>>>>>>>> she "paid off" an FBI director?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> why else would he not prosecute someone who broke the law?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> He told you.  No reasonable prosecutor would have brought such a weak
>>>>>>> case to court.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> that is itself a lie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nope.  It was his exact testimony.  Do you even know what a lie is?
>>>> 
>>>> sure do, but apparently you do not.
>>>> 
>>>> although he did say those words, those words are *false*, which means
>>>> it's a *lie*.
>>> 
>>> No. Because those words are inherently a JUDGEMENT.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *many* reasonable prosecutors were not only shocked at what he said,
>>>> but they would have *jumped* at the opportunity to pursue it in court.
>>> 
>>> Quote one.
>>> 
>> He did not recommend indictment, but he did note:
>> 
>> Clinton:
>> * Mishandled sensitive information
>> * Knew she mishandled sensitive information
>> * Showed "extreme carelessness" and was "sloppy"
>> * Should have understood her actions were illegal
>> * Responded to "suspicious emails"
>> * Allowed "America's secrets [to be] vulnerable to hostile element[s]"
>> * Showed "intent and consciousness of guilt"
>> * Failed to follow internal policy
>> * Failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act
>> * Stored confidential materials on a system less secure than Gmail
>> * Showed poor understanding of what how to keep information secure
>> * Showed poor understanding of technology in general
>> 
>> And Clinton lied... here are just some:
>> * Claiming under oath that she turned over all work related emails
>> * Claiming under oath her lawyers read all of the emails to determine
>>   which were work related
>> * Claiming under oath that she never sent / received information marked
>>   classified (though such markings that existed were done incorrectly)
>> * Claiming she never sent / received classified information
>> * Claiming the server she used was allowed under policy
>> * Claiming she followed the Freedom of Information Act
>> * Claiming that her server was secure
>> * Claiming she used only one device (Comey is unclear about concurrent
>>   usage but elsewhere Clinton speaks of using an iPhone and a Blackberry
>>   in such a way)
>> * Claiming all of her emails were saved or "captured"
>> * Denying she deleted work related emails or had others do so
>> * Denying she had emails deleted to prevent others from seeing them
>> * Denying the FBI investigation was a criminal investigation
>> * Denying she was the target of the FBI investigation
>> 
>> Additionally, Clinton:
>> * Instructed people without clearance to read / handle classified
>>   information
>> * Instructed these same people to delete and hide classified information
>> * Had a system which may have been hacked (we do not know)
> 
> Again... proof?  No.
> 
> Full os shit?  Yes.

If you do not accept comments from the head of the FBI testifying under oath
to Congress, what would you accept?

I have posted other evidence elsewhere... we can go over that, too, if you
like.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 16:33 -0800
  Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-04 20:00 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 17:06 -0800
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          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:39 -0800
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